Thanx for this info which perhaps indicates a greater latitude in looking for John's birth. Is Manitowoc Co far away from where your relatives were living? I ask because the family there originated from England. Jane was born in Kent as RUMNEY. She was married to Charles on Ritchie Thomas's chart and by then the couple in addition to George, William and Anna also had a Charles. Perhaps the two Charles were just away on census night. bfn Alan > Finally -- I have something to add -- but not much. I just returned from 7 > 1/2 hours of looking at microfilm and old books at the Wisconsin State > Historical Society. I still haven't located the marriage record of John > Knibbs (in case you don't remember, John is the brother of Ann Knibbs > Brashier -- my gggrandmother and their father was also John Knibbs)-- so I > don't have much more information about him...but the census indices were > helpful: > > No Knibbs in the 1850 census index. > > In the 1860 WI Census for Dodgeville, Iowa County, WI > John Knibbs -- age 34, minister Methodist Church, $1,000 worth of land and > $250 in personal property, born in England > Amelia Knibbs -- age 23, born in Illinois > Mary Catherine -- age 1, born in WI > > and in the1870 Census for Platteville, Grant County, WI found: > John Knibbs -- age 42, ME Minister, no land, $400 personal property, born in > England, both parents foreign born (interesting that Rev. Knibbs aged only 8 > years in the past 10 -- and lost all his real estate.) > Amelia Knibbs -- Age 32, housekeeper, born in Illinois of non-foreign > parents > Katie Knibbs -- age 11, born in WI > Nettie Knibbs -- age 7, born in WI ( have oral history from my mother's > cousin that my g-grandmother Alice Amelia Brashier McCartney Frye -- used to > correspond with Nettie -- or Nellie Knibbs in North Dakota.) > Hattie Knibbs -- age 1, born in WI > > > I also found some Knibbs in the Wisconsin 1860 Census index that I do not > have a connection to that I can find... > Anna Knibbs -- Village of Two Rivers, Manitowoc County > George J. Knibbs -- Village of Two Rivers, Manitowoc County > Jane Knibbs -- Village of Two Rivers, Manitowoc County > William Knibbs -- Village of Two Rivers, Manitowoc County > > I'm sorry, but I had so many other things to look up that I forgot to go to > the 1860 Manitowoc County Census to get the rest of the information on > them -- next time. > >

Hi Alan, You've got me thinking a bit now -- Manitowoc is a major ship building area on Lake Michigan. It is all the way across the state from Iowa,Grant and Crawford counties where my relatives are from -- probably 200 to 250 miles 370 or so Kilometers from Platteville to Manitowoc. BUT ... I don't know how they arrived here. Some of my other ancestors came through the Great Lakes and then by train -- maybe they came by boat and then more by boat after falls -- no locks then. It is possible that the Charleses were on the census -- I just looked at the index for this group -- and actually on the index my John was missing -- but his wife and daughters were there and when I got to the actual census, he was there. Did Ritchie's family hang out in the Surry area? I'll keep at it -- I know that marriage license for John and Amelia is somewhere -- I must just not be looking in the right place -- I know where they were married and the date, and I know he was a Methodist Minister -- so it had to be a Methodist ceremony. And when I get back to the SHS I'll look up the census on the Manitowoc Knibbses. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [K/NIBB/S] w/e 10th Nov 2001 > Thanx for this info which perhaps indicates a greater latitude in looking for > John's birth. > > Is Manitowoc Co far away from where your relatives were living? I ask because > the family there originated from England. Jane was born in Kent as RUMNEY. > She was married to Charles on Ritchie Thomas's chart and by then the couple > in addition to George, William and Anna also had a Charles. Perhaps the two > Charles were just away on census night. > > bfn > > Alan > > > Finally -- I have something to add -- but not much. >