Hi Marsha and Alan Well,Well,Well. I'm constantly astounded by the snippets that appear on the mailing list. My long held belief that 'my' Knibb line was comprised of people not inclined toward the leaving of merry England has been dashed by your ISTG discovery and has opened a brand new area of research for me. Just have to find out what Laura T and Albert E managed to get up to in the States. Thought that the age discrepancy might have led to Lavinia T and Laura T being two different persons as the passenger manifest listed age 30 should have been 38 based on age 14 at the 1881 census however IGI listed baptismal date for Laura Theresa is certainly 17Feb1867 so I guess the transcribers may have misread a badly written 38 as a 30. Sounds reasonable to me Also Alan, your database printout of the first generation descendants of John Knibb, (c1829) Stoneleigh,shows the many database gaps that still need filling so I'd better retire my time consuming Kenilworth John Knibb to the backburner for now and return to the Birmingham lot who were no doubt feeling a bit left out, as it's a couple of years since I last looked at them. Thanks Marsha for a really appreciated piece of info, Lucky W. Watson, [email protected]