Don I have done a final check of the 1881 census and have found the following Oxford origin entries. Again hope there might be at least one you could use. Charles R, Knibbs ( Head ) b.Miidx aged 26 Occupation ,Inc from Int .? Sarah A. Wife aged 26 b, Bicester Sarah E, Daug aged 12 mths b. Knightsbridge Ldn Mary Knibb 48 Serv house keeper to Donald Cameron b. Stanton St John Caroline Knibbs aged 25 Serv Cook to Martha Jackson ( Any relation to Alan ???? ) b, Bicester Kathe Thats about all I can find at the moment for 1881 London But I will of course advise if any earlier ones come to light. Regards Bob K