on 17th October, Alan wrote: > Can anyone link these two trees? Note in particular the Edwins who all seem, > from census info, to be related to drink, if not to each other! > I'm having doubts about Francis being born c1767 unless he indeed married a > previous time where possibly the connection is to be found. There is though > a later Francis baptised at Deddington who might fit more happily with the > 1818 marriage. What became of the other anyway? I've looked up the bits I know of Francis, his marriage to Mary Anne SODEN and the kids from the marriage. There is a significant age difference between this Francis and Mary Anne - 27 years. Unfortunately, there's nothing in the Steeple Barton PR transcript against the marriage to confirm Francis' age when he married or whether or not he was a widower. It was a trifle early for that type of information to appear. We can however learn quite a bit from the will of Francis KNIBBS who married Mary Anne SODEN, but reading through, there is nothing to confirm or deny that we have the right Francis. The will confirms his marriage to Mary Anne, the name of their children, a later marriage to an Unknown Ann and more children from that marriage. If indeed it is the right Francis, he was producing babies up till he was 70-odd years old! We know that when the will was written in January 1852, that this Francis was living at Islington in London. Finally, we know that the will was proved on 10th May 1856, so Francis must have died shortly before then. I wonder if perhaps Bob can see a Francis death at about this time. An age at time of death would be great if we can find it anywhere. Don (now with doubts in his mind too!)