Bob, Many thanks for yet more information - we must have these K/NIBB/S gatherings more often! It seems to be all one way at the moment but hopefully I will be able to return the favour one day and feed back to you. I think what you've been able to find for me already from the 1881 Census Listing certainly moves us a few steps further along the blind alley, and eventually, it must open up and lead somewhere, so I really do appreciate your help. Almost everything you've given related to this line is new to me, or at least, confirms information I'd gleaned from the IGI, so regrettably, I can't add much. With regard to Isabella Mary, the only information I had for her was from the IGI which gives her marriage as 4 Mar 1846 at the Holy Trinity, London. Isabella's father's will identifies that Isabella was married to Charles FRANCIS. Isabella had several other siblings: Emily Marianne Edwin George George Edwin George Edwin Clark We also know from Francis' will that he married twice (his second wife being Ann Unknown) resulting in two more siblings, each named in the will: Jane Anne Francis Edward (which is almost certainly the Francis Edward you've found marrying to Amelia unknown with the son Francis. Francis' will identifies that Edwin George, George Edwin Clark, Emily Marianne, Isabella Mary, Francis' wife Anne and her two children Edwin William and Elizabeth were all living at the time of his death in 1856. Emily Marianne married a William PHELPS in or around 1839 Edwin George married Elizabeth OMAN in May 1843 at Stepney (according to the IGI) and had two children Edwin William and Elizabeth (again, according to the IGI) George Edwin died in infancy (according to the IGI) George Edwin Clark married Elizabeth BEASLEY and had two daughters Ellen and Emily (from the IGI). He died at Balaklava in the Crimean war shortly after his second daughter was born. Thanks again for the help - do you have any connection with this line or do you know for sure that there is no connection? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: [K/NIBB/S] Francis Edward Knibbs 1838 Stepney > > Don/Alan > > In response to Dons London Connection link > > One Name on Dons tree Francis Edward b 1838 has led to the following > > 1881 Census Listing > Francis Edward Occ Publican Aged 42 (b 1838 ) B Shadwell Bow District > London . He died in Poplar East London aged 61 in 1899 > > Francis ( son ) aged 6 ( b 1875 ) Scolar b. Southwark Ldn. > He could be the one that died in 1920 at Christ church b 1875 > > Wife Amelia aged 39 b Holborn Ldn (b1841 ) > I have an Amelia who died in 1934 at Totnes aged 93 who was not > born as a Knibbs. Could this be the one ?? > There is no sign of a Marriage listed in the IGI for these two > have you any info, > > Further I have an Amelia who died at birth b/d 1878 in Poplar > which could belong to this line . There are a couple of other > still births in Poplar which might fit in to the picture, i will check > and advise. > > I have Issabella Mary as Marrying in Whitechapel in 1846. > > Hope this is of some use to you Don , I will check the other names and > advise if any thing useful comes up > > Regards > Bob K > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >