Don > All we have in the PR is Francis KNIBBS, Steeple Barton, Mary SODEN, Steeple > Barton, so nothing that helps at all. There are no Banns at Deddington that > help either. > HAVE YOU ANY BURIALS AT STEEPLE BARTON? I'M UNHAPPY WITH THE ONE AT DEDDINGTON FOR RICHARD, FATHER OF FRANCIS. WOULDN'T IT BE A TURN UP IF THERE WAS ONE IN WORCESTER. > The information from Bob re the Fancis/Ann marriage is interesting and > certainly adds further doubt to the marriage between Francis b. 1767 and > Mary SODEN. The marriage of Francis b. 1767 to Ann POWELL is certainly a > better match. It may of course be coincidental that 3 of the children from > the Francis and Ann POWELL are named after siblings of Francis b. 1767 - the > 4th after Francis himself. The date of Francis' death equating to a birth in > WELL DATE NOT CONCLUSIVE BUT DEFINITELY WORTH FOLLOWING UP. FOR STARTERS, WE NEED SOMEONE WITH ACCESS TO THE WORCESTER PR, I GUESS, TO SEE IF THERE WAS A FRANCIS K/NIBBS BAPTISED THERE AROUND 1767. MICHAEL PEARMAN MAY SEE THIS AND OBLIGE BUT NOT SHOWN ON IGI AND IF THAT'S COMPLETE THEN HE WOULD BE WASTING HIS TIME. BURIALS ANOTHER MATTER.BUT AGAIN NEED TO CHECK THAT NOT IN NBI. > > From what I'm seeing, I'm pretty sure the current Francis KNIBBS/Mary SODEN > marriage is incorrect. What Bob has found look very much like it is the > correct marriage of Francis b. Deddington 1767. The Francis b. Deddington > 1793 is more likely to be the one who married Mary SODEN, but who does he > belong to? He's not one of mine. If we're right, someone's in line for a > pleasant surprise. If you can think of which certificates we need to get > hold of to solve the mystery for good, let me know and I'd be happy to dig > THE CERTIFICATE FOR FRANCIS WHO DIED 1856 SHOULD GIVE US HIS AGE EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T APPEAR IN THE INDEXES. > > Back to the original topic, does it get you any closer to linking the two > families with the drinking Edwins? > > NOT YET BUT WE CAN RULE OUT WORCESTER I THINK AS THE HENRY BAPTISED THERE DIED YOUNG. AS REGARDS THE FRANCIS BAPTISED 1793, I'M PRETTY SURE HE'S ON YOUR CHART SO NOT ALL IS LOST! I'LL CHECK AND COME BACK OFF LIST. BFN ALAN