[This from Don which didn't reach the list as posted from an unsubscribed email address] Ritchie, Can you remind me please of the names and dates for Charles and his two brothers - I'm afraid I'm not as organised as Alan so although I'm sure you've told me before, I'm not sure where I'd find it. If it's Cornelius senior that you refer to, we have a pretty clear picture of this little family unit. Cornelius was about 6 years old when his parents emigrated to New York. His oldest sibling was a James Knibbs, born in 1827, shortly after his parents married. I'm wondering if perhaps Ana's research in New York may have turned up any Charles or others that she can't place. Kim Knibbs that we've just found isn't on the list yet but she's researching Buffalo New York, so may have turned up some there. If you can give me the names and ages I'll speak with Kim off list. Don