Muriel The one you mention I have as dying 02qtr 1861 Dudley District. I think that the Harriet KNIBB who married John MURPHY on 12 October 1856 is the one baptised 24 Mar 1839 Stratford upon Avon [Shotford Boro?] to John KNIBB and Elizabeth nee JACKSON. They appear on the 1881 Census at 125 Glover St Aston Warwickshire and appear to have lived in Worcester for a period as some children stated as having been born there. He is shown as a 'currier'but I have queried if this might not be 'carrier'. bfn Alan > Is Harriet the daughter of Yjomas and Matilda/ Do you know where she was > married and where they settled and the family are now? Thanks for the info. > >