Don/Bob In 1881, John was at Dalton in Furness in the Ulverstone District. Cecilia died there as a KNIBB in 1922, so I presu,e that's where the family were mining iron ore in 1901. I can't find John's death in the GRO indices which might help to identify him. However, I think you are correct, Don, in identifying John Francis. His mother died in Buckingham from where Cecilia came and indeed married John there in 1868. Another hint is that a grandson was called John Francis. A family grouping from the database appears below. However I don't know which grandson belonged to which son. There was a George and also a George A, a Charles and Jane in addition to the said John Francis, a couple of whom died in infancy. bfn Alan John Francis KNIBBS Born 1Qtr1847 Deddington Baptised 3Jan1847 Died a1901 Buried Occupation Iron Ore Borer Dalton in Furness 1881 Father Francis KNIBBS Mother Mary Ann SYKES 57 Steel Street + Caroline Elizabeth b 04q1878? Married 3Qtr1868 Buckingham District Cecilia UNKNOWN Born c1845 Bucks Baptised Died 1Qtr1921 Buried Occupation Father Mother Children ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Emma KNIBBS Born c1865 Bucks Baptised Died Buried Occupation with Wm John HALL 1881 at Quainton? Frederick John KNIBBS Born 2Qtr1869 Buckinghamshire Baptised Died Buried Occupation Scholar Dalton in Furness 1881 Spouse UNKNOWN John KNIBBS Born 2Qtr1874 Askam Baptised Died 2Qtr1934 Buried Occupation Iron Ore Miner 1901 William KNIBBS Born 4Qtr1875 Askam Baptised Died Buried Occupation Spouse UNKNOWN Joseph KNIBBS Born 3Qtr1878 Baptised Died 1Qtr1880 Buried Occupation Clara KNIBBS Born 1881 Askam Baptised Died Buried Occupation 2mo in 1881 George KNIBBS Born 1Qtr1886 Baptised Died 1Qtr1954 Buried Occupation General labourer 1901 > Many thanks for taking the time to look at Deddington and for passing the > information on. > > I don't know for sure if I have a connection with the John Knibbs you found > at Deddington - I don't seem to have a marriage to Cecelia. The best match I > can come up with is John Frances Knibbs, b. Jan 1847 at Deddington, son of > Frances Knibbs and Mary Ann Sykes. I have no details for him other than his > baptism, so clearly, he must have moved off somewhere. I see that Cecelia is > from Bucks so he could have moved there if indeed it is him. I also see that > John and his son were iron ore miners so I'm also trying to figure out where > Iron Ore was mined in those days - I wasn't aware of iron mining in > Oxfordshire. > >

Alan/Bob, Just got round to checking out the details of the John Knibbs found by Bob in the 1901 census. If indeed he was 55 years old and born in Deddington (as he clearly said he was) then there is little doubt that he is John Francis Knibbs bap. Jan 3 1847. I've checked the Deddington PR Transcript and John wasn't that common a name. Prior to 1847, the next John was baptised in 1816. There were no other Johns baptised there between 1847 and 1901. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [K/NIBB/S] (Deddington John) > Don/Bob > > In 1881, John was at Dalton in Furness in the Ulverstone District. Cecilia > died there as a KNIBB in 1922, so I presu,e that's where the family were > mining iron ore in 1901. I can't find John's death in the GRO indices which > might help to identify him. > > However, I think you are correct, Don, in identifying John Francis. His > mother died in Buckingham from where Cecilia came and indeed married John > there in 1868. Another hint is that a grandson was called John Francis. A > family grouping from the database appears below. However I don't know which > grandson belonged to which son. There was a George and also a George A, a > Charles and Jane in addition to the said John Francis, a couple of whom died > in infancy. > > > bfn > > Alan > > > John Francis KNIBBS > Born 1Qtr1847 Deddington > Baptised 3Jan1847 > Died a1901 > Buried > Occupation Iron Ore Borer Dalton in Furness 1881 > Father Francis KNIBBS > Mother Mary Ann SYKES > 57 Steel Street + Caroline Elizabeth b 04q1878? > > Married 3Qtr1868 Buckingham District > > Cecilia UNKNOWN > Born c1845 Bucks > Baptised > Died 1Qtr1921 > Buried > Occupation > Father > Mother > > Children > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > -- > > Emma KNIBBS > Born c1865 Bucks > Baptised > Died > Buried > Occupation with Wm John HALL 1881 at Quainton? > > Frederick John KNIBBS > Born 2Qtr1869 Buckinghamshire > Baptised > Died > Buried > Occupation Scholar Dalton in Furness 1881 > Spouse UNKNOWN > > John KNIBBS > Born 2Qtr1874 Askam > Baptised > Died 2Qtr1934 > Buried > Occupation Iron Ore Miner 1901 > > William KNIBBS > Born 4Qtr1875 Askam > Baptised > Died > Buried > Occupation > Spouse UNKNOWN > > Joseph KNIBBS > Born 3Qtr1878 > Baptised > Died 1Qtr1880 > Buried > Occupation > > Clara KNIBBS > Born 1881 Askam > Baptised > Died > Buried > Occupation 2mo in 1881 > > George KNIBBS > Born 1Qtr1886 > Baptised > Died 1Qtr1954 > Buried > Occupation General labourer 1901 > > > > Many thanks for taking the time to look at Deddington and for passing the > > information on. > > > > I don't know for sure if I have a connection with the John Knibbs you found > > at Deddington - I don't seem to have a marriage to Cecelia. The best match I > > can come up with is John Frances Knibbs, b. Jan 1847 at Deddington, son of > > Frances Knibbs and Mary Ann Sykes. I have no details for him other than his > > baptism, so clearly, he must have moved off somewhere. I see that Cecelia is > > from Bucks so he could have moved there if indeed it is him. I also see that > > John and his son were iron ore miners so I'm also trying to figure out where > > Iron Ore was mined in those days - I wasn't aware of iron mining in > > Oxfordshire. > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >