Alan, I think you misunderstood what I meant -- or I misunderstood what you said... >One way of checking would be for someone to look at the GRO indices for >03qtr1856 to see if there's a RUSSELL entry there with the same reference. > However, it does seem strange for both an Ann and an Anne KNIBBS to have >married in the same quarter and in the same district with the same reference. > Perhaps it is in reality a duplicate entry for your Ann. > > I did just wonder if the Anne KNIBBS, pauper charwoman in Lambeth was Ann > WHITE, the second wife of John who was your Ann's father. She is shown as a > charwoman on the 1881 census at Woodstock by which time John had died - 1872 >if the right one. That also has me thinking whether a saddler's widow would > have been so described. Oh that we could become time travellers! > Alan I thought that between 1851 census and 1856 marriage of my Ann, that perhaps the first Anne Knibbs could have married and become Ann Russell -- could have been in the same quarter -- but maybe not. Pure conjecture especially since Ann was a very popular name. The second curious thing is about the 1851 census -- although Ann White Knibbs would have been a widow in 1881, in 1851 she was still bearing children with John -- through 1855 I believe and would have been about 40? That's close to 44 -- but then she'd have been nearly 50 when her last child was born -- would that be unusual? And she would have had to return to Woodstock by 1881. I think it's the amateur detective work that is a great part of the attraction of this hobby. Cathy