Don > The big question and the link to genealogy is:- before November 5th 1605, > there was no firework night, so how did my "Ag. Lab." ancestors work it out? > > Ah but when was the first April Fools Day? Or perhaps another 'Guy' told them ie Guirandus, bishop (of Béziers) whose Saint Day it was on November 5th. Now here's a new line of thought. Which of us have ancestors whose names match the Saint Day upon which they were born? See http://www.catholic.org/saints/stsindex.html and http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~cjcampb/calendar/home.html bfn Alan