Cathy > I'd have never guessed about tuppence > being the fee. No, no just me pondering. I hope Audrey's rhyme helped - at least no need to consult the banker for the addition. Was it sung in Half a Sixpence? Julia FOSTER who played opposite Tommy STEELE in the film used to live just across the road from us when we were kids. Now how can we relate ' film stars that we have known' to K/NIBB/S? bfn Alan