Ritchie Point taken re Ellis Island! Thanx also for reminding me re the Bible source of the Devon birth. Perhaps a gravestone verifies the date. Doubtless there is a West Country connection as Isaac was referred to as a Cornish tin miner but I still suspect the family only passed through there (and perhaps through Ireland). My money is still on an Oxfordshire connection which will keep Don interested! As Marsha says, maybe the parents died in New York and the brothers split up from there. I will be keen to hear of anything else Glenn can impart eg any sisters? bfn Alan > . There is no Charles Knibbs among the Matching Passenger Records on the > Ellis Island website. There are 59 other Knibbs, but no Charles. If John > D. > thought his father, Charles, was born in Ireland, he could well have > thought > Charles' parents died on Ellis Island. Remember, John D. was born in 1867. > > Ellis Island was established late in the 19th century, 1892, I think. > Ritchie > > >