Chris Welcome back! All postings are archived and perhaps you could search for the item yourself - see instructions after my sign off. Do come back to me if you can't find. I would though request more info re the particular posting that you are referring to as I have to delete mailing list items from my personal filing cabinet every so often. bfn Alan Alan Jackson Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study & Mailing List Website address http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~knibbetc Did you know? Earlier postings to the list are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/KNIBB-L/ Please follow log-on instructions when you first visit! > I have been off line for some months and realise i may have missed quite a > lot. > > I saw in a recent email that new Northampton connections have been > established. I appear to have lost the email with the AOL change over. > > Can you shed any light on this. > > Best Regards > > Chris Riley > > Knibbs researcher for Northamptonshire , Whitfield > > >

Hi Alan I have been off line for some months and realise i may have missed quite a lot. I saw in a recent email that new Northampton connections have been established. I appear to have lost the email with the AOL change over. Can you shed any light on this. Best Regards Chris Riley Knibbs researcher for Northamptonshire , Whitfield

WEALE and DISBERRY if you have time when your got all the KNIBB. regards Audrey

I enquired about any intentions re this a few weeks ago. Well, I've ordered a copy and am told it will be dispatched to me on 27th August. I'll concentrate on all K/NIBB/S first but, after a while, if listers wish me to look up other surnames, please advise. bfn Alan Alan Jackson Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study & Mailing List Website address http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~knibbetc Did you know? Earlier postings to the list are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/KNIBB-L/ Please follow log-on instructions when you first visit!

For information. It seems to be more robust than the previous trial so I hope people who try it have more luck this time round. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Curtis" <r.curtis@bigpond.net.au> To: <OXFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: [OXF] Another Free Trial from Thomson Gale > Hello Listers > > For all those of you who enjoyed the previous free trials from > Thomson Gale, you will be glad to know that they now have another > free trial which is even more wonderful - and if you missed out last > time, hopefully you will be able to access the site this time. > > This trial allows access to, amongst many other things, AncestryPlus, > which has complete access to Ancestry.com's U.K. & Ireland Records - > the entire collection (together with everything else from Ancestry). > > This trial also has a repeat of The Times Digital Archive and the > Eighteenth Century Collections Online. > > This website, as with all of the Thomson Gale trials, can be a little > tricky to get into, but I think I've now solved all of the problems. > > There are 2 possible problems. The first is that your web browser > (e.g. Internet Explorer) is not allowing access because of your > "cookie" restrictions, and the other is that you have a firewall. > > Before you start, you need to fix-up your web browser, so that it > won't stop any cookies that Thomson Gale (and their third-parties) > want to put on your computer. I only know how to do this with > Internet Explorer, so if you are using another browser, you will have > to do whatever that program requires. > > >From IE6: > Tools > Internet Options > Privacy Tab > > Against "Web Sites", click the "Edit" button > > Then, in the box provided, type in the following URLs and click > "Allow" for each one: > > ancestry.com > gale.com > galegroup.com > > Then click on "OK" until you get out. > > OK - that's fixed up IE, now you need to disable your firewall, or > Norton Internet Security, until you get into the database you want - > you can then turn it back on again, although you will have to disable > it each time you want to access a new database. I find it easier to > leave it disabled until I have finished with the site. > > Once you have done all of the above, to enter the website, go to URL: > > http://trials.gale.com/pubacd/ > > When you get to the Login Page, enter the following: > > User: pubacd17 > Password: durable > > Note that the User ends in 17 (seventeen) and not l7 > > > You may still have problems getting in from time to time, possibly > because of overload of their server. If so, just leave it a while > and try again. I can assure you that it's well worth the effort. > > Just a little bit extra about getting into this website. > > The first next page you get is: > Gale's Public and Academic Database Trial > > For the main Genealogy pages, click on (3) "Biography - Genealogy" > > Then, on the next page, click on (2) "AncestryPlus" > > This will take you to the "INFOTRAC Trial Site" page - don't worry > about that - just click on "Proceed". Sometimes, it seems to miss > this page - I have no idea why. > > You should now be on the AncestryPlus main page. There are thousands > of things to choose from on this site, but the most important for us > are the "U.K. & Ireland Records" - you will find this about halfway > down on the right hand side of the page, next to the globe icon and > under the heading "Search by Location". > > Click on "U.K. & Ireland Records" - and you have hundreds of choices. > > Lastly - a most important footnote. > > Every time you are about to try to get into this website, make sure > that you have your Firewall or Norton Internet Security disabled, or > it won't let you in - as I just discovered the hard way - I've been > on there since yesterday and have only just re-booted and, of course, > by then had forgotten everything I've just told you (above) !!!!! > > Apparently, this Trial is available until the end of September, but > of course, they could decide to take it down at any time, especially > if they get too many hits. So, my advice would be to get in there > quickly and download everything that you want while it's free. > > Good luck with it all, and enjoy. > > Ruth Curtis > Adelaide, South Australia > > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by Norton AntiVirus 2004 > > > > > ==== OXFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives at:- > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OXFORDSHIRE > Browse the list archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/OXFORDSHIRE-L/ >

A Fenny Compton Deed dated 1654 naming John KNIBB amongst others is on sale at Ebay under Item No 2264075417 bfn Alan Alan Jackson Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study & Mailing List Website address http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~knibbetc Did you know? Earlier postings to the list are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/KNIBB-L/ Please follow log-on instructions when you first visit!

For info to go with Don's find, the following were/are photographers: William Knibb BLOMFIELD born Jamaica 1842 Geoffrey George KNIBB born 31 May 1915 Balmain NSW J KNIBBS, Williamstown, S Africa Edith KNIBB, friend of the family, who with her husband Jack lived close to Hubert and Rose COSSINS in 1936 David R KNIBBS of Nottingham Barbara K KNIBBS of Clearwater, Florida Thomas John ('Tom') KNIBBS of Boca Ratan, Florida Any others known to listers? bfn Alan Alan Jackson Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study & Mailing List Website address http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~knibbetc Did you know? Earlier postings to the list are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/KNIBB-L/ Please follow log-on instructions when you first visit!

Alan, I suspect you're right. I've looked at it again with Buffalo in mind and it certainly looks like Buffalo now. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jackari2@aol.com> To: <KNIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [K/NIBB/S] Photographs by J KNIBBS c.1880 > Buffalo? That's the name of the river at East London harbour. > > > Amongst the photographs there are two that are signed "J KNIBBS - PHOTO" in > > the bottom right hand corner. They are both from South Africa and one is > > entitled Faro(?) Harbour - East London. > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Alan, I suspect you're right. I've looked at it again with Buffalo in mind and it certainly looks like Buffalo now. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jackari2@aol.com> To: <KNIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [K/NIBB/S] Photographs by J KNIBBS c.1880 > Buffalo? That's the name of the river at East London harbour. > > > Amongst the photographs there are two that are signed "J KNIBBS - PHOTO" in > > the bottom right hand corner. They are both from South Africa and one is > > entitled Faro(?) Harbour - East London. > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

If you spotted the error in my previous posting to the list, sorry! "Cape Tape" - where did that come from? Clearly too early in the morning for me. It should of course be Cape Town. Don

I have been extremely lucky with photographs again and wanted to share them, so have posted them onto the Yahoo KNIBB pages today. This time, instead of being of KNIBBS people, they are photographs that were taken by a KNIBBS. They turned up in a photograph album containing photographs from a cruise in the S.Y. THETIS via Gibraltar, Italy, Greece, Corfu, Turkey, Lisbon, Aden, Zanzibar and various places in Africa. I was delighted when the owner contacted me and offered me copies. The album has over 220 photographs and from what the owner can tell, they date from between 1880-1890. Amongst the photographs there are two that are signed "J KNIBBS - PHOTO" in the bottom right hand corner. They are both from South Africa and one is entitled Faro(?) Harbour - East London. The other is "Morning Market" and depicts a fantastic market scene of that period. Both original photos are 220-165mm. Apparently it was common practice in those days for passengers on cruise ships to purchase photographs at each place they visited - presumably because cameras were still high-tech and not that easy to carry around. I am not 100% sure who J KNIBBS was but have seen reference to him as a photographer once before. I suspect it was either James or John Knibbs, who were both sons of John Edward Knibbs who arrived in Cape Tape aboard the Shah Jehan in July 1859 with his new wife Fanny. John Edward was from Charlbury in Oxfordshire, England, and came from a family of Saddle and Harness makers. He settled in King William's Town and supplied saddles and harnesses to the Cape police and military. He also made and sold suitcases. His son James Knibbs was know to have worked for him in the business. John Edward married his young wife Fanny Collins who was just 18 years of age on 6 March 1859 and they arrived in Cape Town on 12th July that same year. In 1901, John appears at Cheltenham, Gloucestershire in the UK with his wife Fanny and two younger daughters Hilda and Amy. Amy was born in Cheltenham, but Hilda, the younger of the two was born in South Africa. We believe from this information that John Edward was a fairly wealthy man who travelled back and forth to his home country of England with his family on several occasions. All that remains is to discover which of the brothers, James or John, was the Photographer! For more information on this family, please take a look at http://knibbs.family.users.btopenworld.com/fam129.html Don

Buffalo? That's the name of the river at East London harbour. > Amongst the photographs there are two that are signed "J KNIBBS - PHOTO" in > the bottom right hand corner. They are both from South Africa and one is > entitled Faro(?) Harbour - East London.

Sorry Marsha/Alan, I was so excited by the data Marsha gave me I forgot to answer about the 1880 data. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jackari2@aol.com> To: <KNIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [K/NIBB/S] James KNIBBS, Connecticut, USA > Marsha/Don > > > Do you have the 1880 listing? > > > They appear as KRIBBS in Farmington CT as follows: > > James KRIBBS Self M Male W 50 ENG Brick Mason ENG ENG > Ellen KRIBBS Wife M Female W 49 ENG Keeping House ENG ENG > > William H. KRIBBS Son S Male W 23 CT Brick Mason ENG ENG > Benjamin KRIBBS Son S Male W 20 CT Farmer ENG ENG > James KRIBBS Son S Male W 16 CT Laborer ENG ENG > Hellen KRIBBS Dau S Female W 14 CT At Home ENG ENG > Joseph W. KRIBBS Son S Male W 11 CT At School ENG ENG > John E. KRIBBS Son S Male W 7 CT At School ENG ENG > > bfn > > Alan > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I'm glad to call off the search for Charlotte's death record. She was a granddaughter of the Missionary William KNIBB. A 'Canadian snail mail' correspondent descended from Amey NIBBS Great Marlow (1744-1824) has sent me a copy of Charlotte's Death Registration as Mary Evelyn in British Columbia. bfn Alan Alan Jackson Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study & Mailing List Website address http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~knibbetc Did you know? Earlier postings to the list are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/KNIBB-L/ Please follow log-on instructions when you first visit!

Marsha, Thanks so much for the 1860 information. It's the earliest sighting I have of him in Connecticut. Spot on with the birth date for Burritt (later known as Benjamin). He was actually born on 11 April 1860. I am guessing that the enumerator recorded James' wife's name wrongly - she was Ellen. Ellen and the first two children (Ann and Eliza) were born in England. Thanks also for the 1900 information which confirms some other information that I was given that James remarried. Quite clearly the 1900 census confirms that. I have given up learning more about this family, but the pure luck in acquiring the 5 generation photograph just a few weeks ago, with James at the head, has helped me move forward. It introduced the new surnames of Young and Habershon into the family. Believe it or not, it was a response to my enquires into the Young side that brought me full circle to learn more about the Knibbs. The current generation of Knibbs in Connecticut weren't previously aware of the connection with these two surnames so it was a very lucky find. Thanks again Marsha! Don

Marsha/Don > Do you have the 1880 listing? > They appear as KRIBBS in Farmington CT as follows: James KRIBBS Self M Male W 50 ENG Brick Mason ENG ENG Ellen KRIBBS Wife M Female W 49 ENG Keeping House ENG ENG William H. KRIBBS Son S Male W 23 CT Brick Mason ENG ENG Benjamin KRIBBS Son S Male W 20 CT Farmer ENG ENG James KRIBBS Son S Male W 16 CT Laborer ENG ENG Hellen KRIBBS Dau S Female W 14 CT At Home ENG ENG Joseph W. KRIBBS Son S Male W 11 CT At School ENG ENG John E. KRIBBS Son S Male W 7 CT At School ENG ENG bfn Alan

And here he is again in 1900 (interesting, as ancestry hasn't officially admitted to having any of this indexed yet!) On 1 Jun 1900, in Farmington Town, Hartford Co, CT: Knibbs, James, white male, born Aug 1826, age 73, married 7 years, self and parents born in England, immigrated 1857, in US 43 years, naturalized, occ. farmer, can read, write, and speak English, owns home (with mortgage), lives on farm. Knibbs, Julia, white female, born Sept 1830, age 69, married 7 years, mother of 5 children, 5 still living, self and parents born in England, immigrated in 1888, in US 12 years. Explored a bit... there are indices for Washington DC, Connecticut, and Indiana so far. I'll add images to the yahoo site for those who are interested. "Don Knibbs" <don.knibbs@btinternet.com> wrote: >The following is from the 1870 census of the Unionville part of Farmington, >CT: > >KNIBBS James , 42 born England,  occ: plaster mason, value of real estate >$1800.00, value personal $100.00 > >Helen 39, Ann 19 and Eliza 15 all born Eng > >William H. 13. Benj 10, James 6. Helen 4, and Joseph W. age 1 all born CT > >Don > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial.  Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > -- *Marsha L. Ensminger __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Don, I think this is your family on 9 July 1860. Evidently they were living in a rural area in Farmington Township, Hartford Co., CT. The post office was Unionville. James Nibbs, age 33, male, occ. laborer, owns personal property worth $50, born in England. Mary, age 32, female Ann, 8, female Eliza, 4, female William, 3, male Burritt, 2/12, male The official census day in 1860 was 1 Jun, which _should_ mean that young Burritt was born two months earlier than that. This enumerator left most birthplaces blank; the only ones he recorded were England and Ireland. I think it is therefore safe to assume that everyone without a birthplace listed would have been born in CT. Do you have the 1880 listing? "Don Knibbs" <don.knibbs@btinternet.com> wrote: >The following is from the 1870 census of the Unionville part of Farmington, >CT: > >KNIBBS James , 42 born England,  occ: plaster mason, value of real estate >$1800.00, value personal $100.00 > >Helen 39, Ann 19 and Eliza 15 all born Eng > >William H. 13. Benj 10, James 6. Helen 4, and Joseph W. age 1 all born CT > >Don > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial.  Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > -- *Marsha L. Ensminger __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

The following is from the 1870 census of the Unionville part of Farmington, CT: KNIBBS James , 42 born England, occ: plaster mason, value of real estate $1800.00, value personal $100.00 Helen 39, Ann 19 and Eliza 15 all born Eng William H. 13. Benj 10, James 6. Helen 4, and Joseph W. age 1 all born CT Don

Marsha, Thanks so much for that - it's so obvious now! Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <MarshaEnsminger@netscape.net> To: <KNIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [K/NIBB/S] Connecticut KNIBBS > "na" = naturalized > "al" = alien > > There's actually a third option "pa", which means naturalization papers have been filed (at some courthouse), but the citizenship process is not yet complete. > > These notations will only be found for men. Citizenship was not required in order to own land, and women couldn't vote till 1920. There were various quirks in the law at different times, but, generally an immigrant woman's status reflected her husband's. She was automatically naturalized when he was, without benefit of paperwork. (So were minor children.) For a while (don't remember exactly when), if a woman who was an American citizen by birth married an alien, she lost her citizenship. > > Jackari2@aol.com wrote: > > >Don > >> > >> Does anyone know what "na", and "al" mean after the immigration dates above, > >> please? > >> > > > >I'd guess North America and Alabama but US listers will no doubt come up with > >something better. > > > >bfn > > > >Alan > > > > > >============================== > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > -- > *Marsha L. Ensminger > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >