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Anyone yet managed to log on to http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/ and search/download any K/NIBB/S? I did get through to the search form just now but report came back as too busy. bfn Alan

Thanks, Alan. And a Happy and Prosperous New Year to all the Knibbs Listers in case I don't get to you in a more timely fashiorn. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [K/NIBB/S] 2001 in review > In a message dated 24/12/01 01:18:25 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > > > > Much has gone well for me this year. I have a new job -- a big promotion -- > > down side is I have less time for genealogy. > > Congratulations on the new job and we hope 2002 will bring new discoveries > for you. > > Re your isp, my emails direct to you were not returned so nothing major wrong > I trust. > > bfn > > Alan > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Bob No sorry I have nothing on William NIBBS who was in Bethnal Green with Cellia, apart from the Mary and William christenings in 1775/1776. The time and place of their marriage would certainly help our knowledge of the K/NIBBS in this area. bfn Alan > In the ever continuing story of trying to find the Father > of William Richard Knibbs born 1810. > > His mother Mary is listed as a Nibbs having died in 1842 > as per the Death cert sent to me by Alan . > > I have traced a Willian Nibbs b 5/6/1776 along with sister > Mary b.22/1/1775. > > Both of these were by William & Cecilla (Celia ) Nibbs > in the St Matthews Parish Bethnal Green. > > They suddenly appear in the area in 1775. and the age is > right for William to have married Mary Barrington in 1798? > > Have you any thing on their marriage prior to 1775 ( in your > database as my on only covers Knibbs to any extent ) and > the area they came from ?? > >

Don Some snipped comments on your valuable extracts appear in line below. > Deddington, Hopcrafts Yard: > Edward KNIBBS 43 Groom Deddington > Sophia 38 Northamptonshire, Kings Sutton > Mary Ann 17 Deddington > Harriet 10 Deddington > Sarah 8 Deddington > Eliza 4 Deddington > She was at Kings Sutton in 1851 > This is Edward and Sophia Fathers. > > > Deddington, New Street: > Jane KNIBBS (unmarried) 80 Pastry Cook Deddington > Sarah KNIBBS(unmarried) 69 Laundress Steeple Barton > Strangely, I had Risley as the place they were in 1851 but note New Street Deddington. > Deddington, Philcock Street: > Francis KNIBBS 35 Road Labourer Deddington > Mary Ann 32 Deddington > John Francis 4 Deddington > Lydia 1m Deddington > This is Francis & Mary Ann Sykes. This is the first I've ever seen of a > daughter Lydia. No sign of her baptism in Deddington nor for that matter in > any of my "Unplaced Knibbs" data. > > I had conjectured she fitted here from her birth 02qtr1851, so nice to have confirmation. Another Lydia KNIBBS was born 03qtr1849 Oxford District and one married 04qtr1868 Bedminsiter District. > > Clifton: > James KNIBBS 49 Slater Deddington > Mary Ann 20 daughter Clifton > Robert 15 Ag. Lab Clifton > Sarah 10 Clifton > This is James who married Mary Ann Wills (she died in 1848). the Mary Ann > above is identified as his daughter. > I have WELLS rather than WILLS which could be important when searching. > > Westcott Barton, Corner of Pound Lane: > John KNIBBS 44 Harness Maker, Saddler, etc. Deddington > Mary Ann 41 Little Tew > William 11 Westcott Barton > I can't seem to place these at all. > Nor me. We do have another John KNIBBS baptised Deddington in 1807 but he seems to be well accounted for. > > Woodstock: > John KNIBBS 23 Butcher Man Woodstock > John is identified as "Servant" living at the premises of Thomas Morris, > Butcher Farmer. > Not 100% sure but this could be the son of Cathy Cliff's John & Catherine? > I think you are probably right as we don't have another John baptised at Woodstock around this time. > > > Cassington & Worton: > William KNIBBS 32 Railway Labourer Hampton > Living with James Edgington. Identified as his brother-in-law. James > Edgington's wife is Anne aged 31. > Anne and William were children inter alia of George KNIBBS and Ann HARDY m 1803 at Hampton Poyle. > > > Nether & Over Worton, Town Farm: > Maria KNIBB (unmarried) 20 Dairy Maid Wroxton, Oxfordshire > Living on the premises of the Farm owner > > I've not placed. > Sandford & Ledwell: > William KNIBB 48 Agricultural Labourer Hinton in the Hedges, Gloucestershire > Esther 43 Condicote, Gloucestershire > Ann 18 Glover Ledwell, Oxfordshire > Wilkin 16 Agricultural Labourer Ledwell, Oxfordshire > John 10 Ledwell, Oxfordshire > Elizabeth 6 Sandford, Oxfordshire > Amos 2 Sandford, Oxfordshire > I have his death and her remarriage but little on the children. Another William born at Hinton was in Charwelton 1881 unless I've erred. bfn Alan

In a message dated 24/12/01 01:18:25 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Much has gone well for me this year. I have a new job -- a big promotion -- > down side is I have less time for genealogy. Congratulations on the new job and we hope 2002 will bring new discoveries for you. Re your isp, my emails direct to you were not returned so nothing major wrong I trust. bfn Alan

In a message dated 23/12/01 23:13:24 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Last December Alan invited us "to submit 2 New Year wishes, at least one of > which should be connected with K/NIBB/S :-)" > > Perhaps I should invite a similar 'wish list' for 2002. I'll try and help re anything K/NIBB/S and personally would much like to win the lottery so as to be able to purchase some promising looking K/NIBB/S GRO certificates. bfn Alan

Alan / and all Listers Seasons greetings and a happy new year. In the ever continuing story of trying to find the Father of William Richard Knibbs born 1810. His mother Mary is listed as a Nibbs having died in 1842 as per the Death cert sent to me by Alan . I have traced a Willian Nibbs b 5/6/1776 along with sister Mary b.22/1/1775. Both of these were by William & Cecilla (Celia ) Nibbs in the St Matthews Parish Bethnal Green. They suddenly appear in the area in 1775. and the age is right for William to have married Mary Barrington in 1798? Have you any thing on their marriage prior to 1775 ( in your database as my on only covers Knibbs to any extent ) and the area they came from ?? Regards Bob Knibbs

Happy Christmas everyone. I've attached the details I've found from the 1851 Woodstock Union census for Oxfordshire. I can connect to some of them but there are others that I don't even recognise. Most are KNIBBS but there are a couple of KNIBB at the bottom of the list. Most families are from Oxfordshire but there is an Ann KNIBBS, pauper lacemaker from Ashington, Buckinghamshire. One of the KNIBB families is from a fascinating place named Hinton in the Hedges, Gloucestershire. Don p.s. to Cathy - Still can't email you directly. I'll check it out with my ISP after Christmas. 1851 Census for Woodstock Union, Oxfordshire Deddington, Hopcrafts Yard: Edward KNIBBS 43 Groom Deddington Sophia 38 Northamptonshire, Kings Sutton Mary Ann 17 Deddington Harriet 10 Deddington Sarah 8 Deddington Eliza 4 Deddington No mention of the other daughter Ellen bap 1839 This is Edward and Sophia Fathers. Deddington, New Street: Jane KNIBBS (unmarried) 80 Pastry Cook Deddington Sarah KNIBBS(unmarried) 69 Laundress Steeple Barton These two are sisters, daughters of Richard and Sarah Bignell William KNIBBS 73 Saddler Middle Barton Mary 64 Deddington This is William and Mary Watkins. Deddington, Tabernacle Square: John KNIBBS 43 Thatcher Deddington Mary Ann 41 Deddington Richard 14 Thatchers Labourer Deddington Sarah 9 Deddington Mary Ann 7 Deddington John above is the son of William and Ann Fardon. His wife Mary Ann is the daughter of John & Susannah Perry. Both were Knibbs's. Deddington, Philcock Street: Francis KNIBBS 35 Road Labourer Deddington Mary Ann 32 Deddington John Francis 4 Deddington Lydia 1m Deddington This is Francis & Mary Ann Sykes. This is the first I've ever seen of a daughter Lydia. No sign of her baptism in Deddington nor for that matter in any of my "Unplaced Knibbs" data. Deddington, Market Place: Thomas KNIBBS 35 Road Labourer Deddington Sarah 36 Adderbury Pheoby 5 Deddington Joseph 2 Deddington This is Thomas & Sarah Gibbard. Clifton: James KNIBBS 49 Slater Deddington Mary Ann 20 daughter Clifton Robert 15 Ag. Lab Clifton Sarah 10 Clifton This is James who married Mary Ann Wills (she died in 1848). the Mary Ann above is identified as his daughter. Westcott Barton, Corner of Pound Lane: John KNIBBS 44 Harness Maker, Saddler, etc. Deddington Mary Ann 41 Little Tew William 11 Westcott Barton I can't seem to place these at all. Woodstock: John KNIBBS 23 Butcher Man Woodstock John is identified as "Servant" living at the premises of Thomas Morris, Butcher Farmer. Not 100% sure but this could be the son of Cathy Cliff's John & Catherine? Richard KNIBBS 49 Cordwainer Woodstock Susan Francis 46 Tackley, Oxfordshire Frances 10 daughter Woodstock This is Richard & Susannah Francis Thurlow John KNIBBS 53 Saddler Woodstock Ann 40 Woodstock Eliza 9 Woodstock Harriet 8 Woodstock William 5 Woodstock James 3 Woodstock Henry 1 Woodstock This is John and Ann White, the second wife of Cathy's John. Kidlington: Ann KNIBBS (widow) 81 Pauper Lacemaker Ashington,. Buckinghamshire Can't place this Ann. Cassington & Worton: William KNIBBS 32 Railway Labourer Hampton Living with James Edgington. Identified as his brother-in-law. James Edgington's wife is Anne aged 31. Can't place this one either. Nether & Over Worton, Town Farm: Maria KNIBB (unmarried) 20 Dairy Maid Wroxton, Oxfordshire Living on the premises of the Farm owner Sandford & Ledwell: William KNIBB 48 Agricultural Labourer Hinton in the Hedges, Gloucestershire Esther 43 Condicote, Gloucestershire Ann 18 Glover Ledwell, Oxfordshire Wilkin 16 Agricultural Labourer Ledwell, Oxfordshire John 10 Ledwell, Oxfordshire Elizabeth 6 Sandford, Oxfordshire Amos 2 Sandford, Oxfordshire

Much has gone well for me this year. I have a new job -- a big promotion -- down side is I have less time for genealogy. I have a new computer -- and a new ISP -- now if Don can only get through to me personally; I found my Knibbses in Don's lost and found. I have much to be thankful for. On the other side, last week brought the passing of my uncle, John Harold Hackett -- age 82. We always called him uncle Harold -- his father was John too and I guess they didn't want to be confused with each other many years ago. Two weeks before that mom's Cousin Ada passed also -- she ws in her mid 80's. And with Uncle Harold's passing only my Aunt Agnes (at 93 years) is left of my mother's family -- that generation of the great-grandchildren of Ann Knibbs Brashier. May the Christmas Holiday find all Knibbses everywhere and to every relation in good health, happy and in touch with your families. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: [K/NIBB/S] 2001 in review > Last December Alan invited us "to submit 2 New Year wishes, at least one of which should be connected with K/NIBB/S :-)" > > So, has Santa been good to everybody? anybody? > > Personally, back in October I received copies of obituaries for Mildred & Sterling Knibb which answered my question, and a message from someone who went to school with their children & remembered the death of Mildred & the subsequent adoption of seven of the eight children. > > The part-time job didn't pan out, so I'm back to job hunting again. If anybody needs words processed or edited, let me know. > -- > *Marsha L. Ensminger > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [email protected]! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Last December Alan invited us "to submit 2 New Year wishes, at least one of which should be connected with K/NIBB/S :-)" So, has Santa been good to everybody? anybody? Personally, back in October I received copies of obituaries for Mildred & Sterling Knibb which answered my question, and a message from someone who went to school with their children & remembered the death of Mildred & the subsequent adoption of seven of the eight children. The part-time job didn't pan out, so I'm back to job hunting again. If anybody needs words processed or edited, let me know. -- *Marsha L. Ensminger __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [email protected]! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Cathy, I'm afraid I still can reach you on email and so much information I want to pass on. I'm receiving from you okay but each time my replies just get bounced back with the following: "A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [email protected] retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period" Are you receiving mail from anyone else? Don

Alan & all I like the idea of a perukemaker. Until we can obtain positive proof I think I will 'foster' this Thomas. Or at least for the Christmas period. Can I be second after Muriel for the DNA testing. I would like to be related to the rest of you instead of in a tree all by myself. I didn't know about brother Michael being in the Guardian. He is visiting tomorrow so I will be able to quiz him. My guess is this is about his retirement. Happy Christmas to all. Rose-Marie

Alan, I have read a couple of good websites about this hoax, which is also circulating here in Sydney. (The sites are the Symantec (Norton) and Trend Micro ones at http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html and http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo). They say that the Sulfnbk.exe file isn't actually essential but that people might not want to delete it, either. For instance, Symantec says: "If you have deleted this file, restoration is optional. Sulfnbk.exe is a Microsoft Windows utility that is used to restore long file names. It is not needed for normal system operation. If you want to restore it, there is more than one way to do this. See the information that follows." I find that a quick check at these sites has always shown emails of this type to be hoaxes, but I suppose there'll eventually be a real virus that our scanning software misses for a while! Hope this helps, and very best wishes to all the listers at Christmas, cheers, Stuart --------------- >In a message dated 17/12/01 14:40:38 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] >writes: > > >> I hope you didn't delete it Alan, this is a hoax and it's an essential >> file!!! > >Oh dear me. I did save a copy to disk before deleting. I have checked >Harriet's machine and it comes up with a proper Windows icon so presume >varies depending on version of Windows. I had switched off and turned back >on with no ill effects. The site you mentioned doesn't actually say it's an >essential file as far as I can see but doubtless is. Would just ask from >where you got that info? > >bfn > >Alan > > > Read this ... > >> >> http://www.europe.f-secure.com/hoaxes/sulfnbk.shtml >> >> > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

What does Father Christmas call one of his reindeer with no eyes? No idea! Sorry for that and for the virus alert hoax re sulfnbk.exe. Fortunately, as you will have seen, no harm done if, like me, you followed the instructions to delete the file. It is not a vital one and can be omitted from Windows but <A HREF="http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html">http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html</A> explains how to reinstate it. Why Microsoft assigned the ugly black icon to it, I haven't been able to find out, but no doubt someone spotted that and hence the scam. Don's unplaced list which I referred to last time has already paid dividends. Cathy CLIFF found on it her Ann KNIBBS and father John a saddler. Well done both. Thanks to Michael HICKMAN [my good friend not a subscriber], the database now has within it a perukemaker - wig maker to you and me. He is Thomas KNIBB who was in Cambridge with wife Rebecca for the baptism of three children 1764-66. I just wonder if he wasn't Rose-Marie's [brother of Samuel who married Elizabeth MEADOWS] who came back to Kettering from London to be buried 1768. He had a surviving daughter Rebecca who may be the one who married William NEWMAN in Kettering in 1793. Kite flying but leads me to her [Rose-Marie's] real brother [Professor Michael] whom I should have included in my birthday wishes last time around. Sioux spotted a reference to it in the Guardian newspaper no less. On Sunday, there was a very interesting programme on BBC TV about the human genome. One laboratory examined some DNA, taken unbeknownst to them from the presenter, Professor Robert Winston, and were able to predict from where his family had originated - Palestine. They did this by consulting their huge database which shows the proportion of people in a particular country with the same male X chromosone. I wonder if K/NIBB/S samples would similarly pinpoint a location but I suspect not. Most British families will have emanated from Northern Europe and spread widely there [and into the New World] such that there are no longer 'hot spot' concentrations at the original places. Only my guess though. I gather that Leicester University are now carrying out a study on the CLARE family DNA. Wouldn't it be great if we could find a University that would take on the K/NIBB/S? As you know, Muriel is head of the queue re providing a sample. Anyone else in line or able to provide an intro to an academic or research establishment? Not perhaps the jolliest of discussions that will take place around the Christmas turkey. Perfect opportunity though to chat about K/NIBB/S past and present. bfn Alan

Alan I knew about Knibb Rd. Len was my Uncle and Wayne is my cousin's son. Another cousin is still a fruit farmer in Stanthorpe today. I have most of the family details and spoke to another cousin last month when she visited England. There is a Knibb's Hill in Fenny Compton leading to Daniel Knibbs farm. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 7:41 PM Subject: [K/NIBB/S] Ho ho. Ho... > ....lidays are here again! > > To get into the Christmas spirit, I'll start with a pizza order request that > Harriet took at work last night, 'deep pan, crisp and even'. > > No snow here though, as in the carol - indeed we've still got some leaves on > one tree in the garden. > > >From a warmer climate still, Dr Wayne KNIBB in Australia who I found by > surfing the net, has given me Knibb's Road to add to our list. Named after > after Len and Mary Knibb in Stanthorpe (in fact just outside Stanthorpe, > Queensland in a district called Whisky Gully). He tells me that these > KNIBB's were orchardists and may have produced some wine but no whisky! What > do you think of that, Muriel? He has promised to fill out his/your tree by > speaking to all relatives at the next family gathering. > > Don's transcription of the Woodstock KNIBBS has helped solve many a mystery > for Trevor KNIBBS. I've told Don that a number of the 'unplaced' K/NIBB/S > are allocated to trees [some unverified and unclaimed] within the database. > I do try to inform everyone directly who has an interest in a 'found' name > from a parish register but I'm all too conscious that I may slip up on > occasions. His unplaced entries, coming from the Oxfordshire parish > registers as they do, don't contain conjectures and will help anyone > researching a particular name, occupation or location. The entries generally > pre-date the K/NIBB/S GRO lists that are available from me, so should prove > to be jolly useful. > > Some progress if not success for Jim. Remember we were looking for the > correct George KNIBBS marriage at Brackley. Well, the purchase of Cecil > Gilbert's birth certificate has revealed that his real father was then called > by another name. Who thinks this game's easy? > > Graham NIBBS from the States has sent me a couple of old letters from family > containing details about his ancestors illustrious lives. All very nautical, > with service on numerous ships both in peacetime and at war. > Representatives seem to have been present at every major Canal opening in the > last century eg Suez, Kiel and the Manchester Ship. There were royal > connections to which should go down well with the List's very own > harbourmaster, Brian NIBBS, who met Prince Philip this year. > > Marsha has sent me some more US census extractions which will help enormously > in piecing together the transatlantic K/NIBB/S. > > Audrey has told me about a KNIBBS Road in Billingborough, Lincolnshire where > a number of KNIBBS lived, Unfortunately for her, Audrey is the latest to > have caught a computer virus. As we are a relatively small list, I don't > unsubscribe anyone automatically for such [because no one will be infected > via the list] but I do need to remind you not to open any email attachment > nor click on any html coding in an email that you are not 100% sure about. > At the present time be very wary of anything from a list member [or anyone > else] whose address line begins with an underscore [ _ ] or if an attachment > has more than one dot [ . ] in its title. > > And finally, many thanx for all Christmas cards and greetings and may I in > turn wish everyone a truly Happy Christmas. We have family visiting and I > guess my time on this machine may be somewhat rationed from the end of the > week, so peace should reign. Now, I'm going to enact an annual tradition and > watch the film 'Wonderful Life' which I love for its sheer escapism. What do > you do? > > bfn > > Alan > > PS I always feel sorry for those with Birthdays at this time of the year - > for a start the selection of cards in the shops is greatly reduced and I > reckon that they miss out on separate presents. So a special greeting to Jo > HEAD whose birthday it is on the 18th. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hiya Alan, I thought that I should put this in to help. It appears that this virus is seen to be a hoax and this is the site that tells you mostly about it. http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/hoaxes/sulfnbk.html Hope this helps. Best wishes Bridget ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:18 PM Subject: [K/NIBB/S] Virus alert > I don't encourage general virus warnings on the mailing list as we are about > K/NIBB/S not viruses. > > However, I've just received this warning and when I checked my system I found > the offending file, so I feel I must ask you all to check to see that you > don't have it and to take the appropriate action as described. > > bfn > > Alan > > > COPY > > Friends, > > I have just received a warning that I and others on my address list have been > infected with a VIRUS, I have taken the appropriate action after finding that > my system had the bug. You will wish to do the same. I have noted verbatum > the message I received and the actions that are necessary. > PLEASE TREAT THIS SERIOUSLY. > > 'I have just received an e-mail that said I might have a VIRUS that is spread > from address book to address book. It is apparently undetectable by Norton > or McAfee. It remains dormant for about 14 days then activates and wipes out > the hard drive data. > When I checked my hard drive I did find the virus and successfully deleted it. > > (It emanated from friends in Canada via friends in South Africa) > > Since I have you in my address book you may well have the virus. The > directions for removing it are quite easy to follow. > > 1. Go to "start" - then to find or search (depending on your computer) > > 2. In the "search for files or folders" type in sulfnbk.exe this is the > virus > > 3. in the "look in" make sure you are searching Drive C. > > 4. Hit "search" button (... or find) > > 5. If this file shows up ( it is a ugly blackish icon that will have the name > "sulfnbk.exe" DO NOT OPEN IT !!!!!! > > 6. RIGHT click on the file- go down to delete and left click > > 7. It will ask you if you want to send it to the recycle bin .......... say > yes > > 8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are and double click on the > recycle bin > > 9. Right click on the sulfnbk.exe and delete again - or empty the bin > > > IF YOU FIND IT SEND THIS E MAIL TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK BECAUSE THAT IS > HOW IT IS TRANSFERRED. > > WE COULD ALL DO WITHOUT THIS, RIGHT? BUT I HAVE ACTED IMMEDIATELY AND > SUGGEST YOU DO TOO. > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Listers - please excuse me for sending this to the list. For some reason, I can't seem to send it direct to Cathy. I've been trying all day and each time, it gets bounced. It's exciting news that I want to share with Cathy so didn't want to delay. Cathy, That sound like extremely good news. The John KNIBBS who appeared under the occupation of Saddler on my web page is indeed the same John. He married Catherine WRIGHT in 1825. She died in 1837 and was the mother of John and Ann in 1826 and 1829. The link on my web page from John the saddler points to his second marriage to Ann WHITE in 1839, the mother of his other 8 children! When I put the data onto the web, I hadn't spotted that both marriages were to the same John KNIBBS. I'll try to put that right asap. I only got the Woodstock data last week, so this is all new to me as well. This is now starting to get very interesting as I'm digging around to try to find more details of your John's father (also John) who married Rachel GRIMMET. I've seen reference to Woodstock in the Deddington details, and the fact that we have Saddlers in Deddington and Woodstock causes me to believe there is indeed a connection between the Johns of Woodstock and Richard KNIBBS/Sarah BIGNELL of Deddington Richard and Sarah had many children, and amongst them there were two sons John and James who "disappeared". Interestingly, we can now see there is a John and a James marrying in Woodstock and I THINK (just think for the time being) that they are the two missing sons. My logic is that firstly, they are of about the right age. John (who married first was the older b. 1762) and would have been aged 23 years. James (married second and the younger b. 1764) would have been 24 years. Unfortunately, I don't know their father's occupation, but I do know that their brother William of the Oxon Yeomanry was a saddler, and their younger brother Thomas was a collar maker between 1795-1814. There were also a couple of children called Richard and Sarah. Finally, if the burial in Sep 1832 of John aged 71 years is this John above, then this too points to John b.1762 (within a year anyway)." The difficulty will be in proving that John and James were sons of Richard and Sarah (making your John the grandson of Richard and Sarah). If we can, then you and I have a connection! - something we've both had a feeling about for ages. Remind me, please - do you have MS Word on your PC? If so, I'll send you the Woodstock data so you can see for yourself. Don

Hi Alan :) Oh crumbs, I can't remember now!! :(( I remember receiving a warning about it being a hoax on one of my other mailing lists. I'd done the same as you and deleted the file!! One of the list members sent us all instructions on how to reinstall the file. I'll email the list again and ask if anyone still has it. Failing that, I'll wander through the archives and see if I can find it :) Rob. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, 17 December, 2001 11:08 am Subject: Re: [K/NIBB/S] Virus alert In a message dated 17/12/01 14:40:38 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I hope you didn't delete it Alan, this is a hoax and it's an essential > file!!! Oh dear me. I did save a copy to disk before deleting. I have checked Harriet's machine and it comes up with a proper Windows icon so presume varies depending on version of Windows. I had switched off and turned back on with no ill effects. The site you mentioned doesn't actually say it's an essential file as far as I can see but doubtless is. Would just ask from where you got that info? bfn Alan Read this ... > > http://www.europe.f-secure.com/hoaxes/sulfnbk.shtml > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 - Release Date: 12.11.01

In a message dated 17/12/01 14:40:38 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I hope you didn't delete it Alan, this is a hoax and it's an essential > file!!! Oh dear me. I did save a copy to disk before deleting. I have checked Harriet's machine and it comes up with a proper Windows icon so presume varies depending on version of Windows. I had switched off and turned back on with no ill effects. The site you mentioned doesn't actually say it's an essential file as far as I can see but doubtless is. Would just ask from where you got that info? bfn Alan Read this ... > > http://www.europe.f-secure.com/hoaxes/sulfnbk.shtml > >