P.S. Here is a little more about Wayne's line Mary.... Thanks for the info....I'll check the Knapp book. The thing that intrigued me was that _my_ Silas's daughter, Susannah m. Asher Merwin, and their son Samuel Asher Merwin was b. in Bloomville, NY, right next to Delhi where _your_ Silas was located. -- .....Wayne Howell..... ...Port Townsend, WA.. [email protected]