First, I will say thank you Duncan, for the kind words. Then I will say this to the list members, it is not my intent to exclude any Knapp line. I am simply said that I am starting with the English(Nicholas) line and working from there. Some people have already asked me this, and I have gladly accepted information from other lines. Which I am archiving at present, to be put on the site in the near future. Now, lets get back to looking for more "cousins" and stop fighting. Sandie [email protected]