To Greg Lampman and Patricia Knapp: Any idea when John Knapp 1/25/1805-1/20/1884 may have moved to MN/WI? My 5xGGF, Samuel Knapp, had a son John D. Knapp who could have been born around that time. Samuel married a second time in Jul. 1799 and had a daughter first, then John. Samuel was b. 1737, by the way, and probably would not be having regular children like a younger man. Samuel lived at Warwick in Orange Co., New York, and I believe son John was there at least through 1850. Wish I had more information about him. I need to look for him in the NY census. Tom Cornell