Hi Joe, I don't think they are the same, My Rose was born in 1850 Iam not sure where, probably NY, as that is what is listed on her marriage certificate and also her death certificate. Rose's parents where never mention on either paper. Rose died in 1889 in San Bernardino, Calif. She was 38. I have some other photos that show Will Knapps children and they where taken in Bakersfield, Ca. and one in Los Angeles. I am assuming he moved the Calif. also. Thanks for your reply and hopefully someone will know who they are. Sincerely, Lynn