Hi All Have to unsubscribe for 2 to 3 weeks. Leaving my poor computer behind while I drive East across Canada. Have a nice August, don't forget there is lovely weather outside. I will try to do some grave searching for more long lost Knapp's, on my trip. It is amazing how you can go back to a certain point and there you sit stranded. Later, Patricia -- Patricia Knapp [email protected] Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

Does any one on the Knapp list have a Levisa KNAPP? She was listed in the census as being born in KY, probably around 1800. She married (first) Thomas Hol(e)man from NC. He was in AR in the late 1820s. Don't know if they married in KY or AR. They had two sons, Joseph (b: Jan 1836) and Thomas, both born in AR. They may also have had a daughter, Elizabeth HOLMAN, who married a James L. KNAPP,1 Aug 1844 in Saline Co. AR. Don't know if this James L. was related to Levisa or not. This Elizabeth may not have been a daughter, but could have been a sister/niece/cousin of Thomas. After Thomas died in 1844, Levisa was married a second time to a TRAMMELL in AR. Would appreciate any leads you can give me about any of these very hard to trace ancestors! Thanks, Mynda Holman McGuire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 10:16 AM Subject: KNAPP-D Digest V98 #158

Tom, > Does anyone have information on an Amos Knapp b. 16 June 1774 > Stephentown ,New York, m. Sally Andrew b. Aug. 1 1778 Coventry Kent Co.,RI I don't have any information on Amos but do have the family of Erastus. Maureen Knapp De Bolle St. Augustine, Fl. [email protected]

In a message dated 7/26/98 12:35:10 PM, you wrote: <<boy I wish I could have been on that tour...my two Enos Knapps are buried at the old tomac ave cemetary. I wished I could have asked who that old Timothy knapp belonged to there. ..I also wished I could have mowed it better and made it more tidy.I did leave some small American flags on some grave of veterans. Boy am I ever sentimental!!:) rebecca>> Rebecca, I don't blame you! I was there a year ago in January 97, for the second time. The floor of the cemetery was a solid carpet of purple crocuses and it appeared that there had been some storms that had knocked down several of the trees. I wish I'd been able to attend the tour, too. I'm sure that Mr. Finch had some wonderful insight and knowledge to share. It's an incredibly beautiful place. Maureen

Does anyone on the list have any information on an artist by the name of JP Knap? My grandparents had a painting by him (not sure when they purchased it but I remember it from the 1940's). Now in my living room. Thanks. Joan Gerrits

boy I wish I could have been on that tour...my two Enos Knapps are buried at the old tomac ave cemetary. I wished I could have asked who that old Timothy knapp belonged to there. ..I also wished I could have mowed it better and made it more tidy.I did leave some small American flags on some grave of veterans. Boy am I ever sentimental!!:) rebecca On Sat, 25 Jul 1998 17:57:12 EDT [email protected] writes: > >In a message dated 7/25/98 9:39:45 PM, [email protected] wrote: > ><<Is William Finch, JR. on line? >> > >I don't know of any access to him online. He is at the William Finch, >Jr. >Archives quite often. The archives are on the grounds of the HSTG, the >Bush- >Holley House and Museum. Their address is: > >The Historical Society of the Town of Greenwich >39 Strickland Road >Cos Cob, CT 06807 > >I believe he led a guided tour to the Tomac (Old Puritan) Cemetery in >Cos Cob >this Spring--so I'm hoping he's still active in the area. > >good luck! Maureen > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I have a picture of the old Knapp tavern of Greenwich, Ct. Took a hurried trip there once. rebecca [email protected] _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Help Does anyone have information on an Amos Knapp b. 16 June 1774 Stephentown ,New York, m. Sally Andrew b. Aug. 1 1778 Coventry Kent Co., RI. Children Elisha John Erastus Pamela Clarissa Henry Amos Jr.. Most of the Family moved to Lorain Co. Ohio. In the Early 1830s. I'd love to find out Who Amos Knapps Parents were. I understand that there were at least four Amos Knapps in New York around that time. TEK

There are several Israel Knapps and the Nicholas Knapp Genealogy appears to have them monumentally confused. As best I can reconstruct it, it appears that the Israel Knapp who was designated C-20 was born about 1710 in Horseneck. (Even the NKG, however, notes that this Israel may have been born in 1727, which would then make the next one a bit less confusing.) There may have been a second Israel Knapp born about 1727. And there was an Israel Knapp of unknown birthdate -- but unlikely to have been as early as 1727 -- who married Mary Hennion. The NKG combines these as one person, designated D-76. The records of the Fishkill Dutch Reformed Church shown baptisms of at least six children (with birthdates from 1770 to 1785) of Israel Knapp and Mary Hennion. It seems likely that this Israel Knapp is the one referenced in the Beekman Patent note. The NKG also shows an Israel Knapp (E-250), b. 1776, m. Temperance Tompkins, d. unk. At F-608 is another Israel Knapp, b. 1797, d. 1880. This Israel is my great-great grandfather and the NKG is again confused with respect to his children -- most dramatically with Emeline (G-1665) who is shown as born in 1847 when in fact she was married that year at age 19 at the Walden Dutch Reformed Church in Orange County. I'm always in the market for information that will help sort out the many Israels. 8^) Duncan Morrow -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, July 25, 1998 5:08 PM Subject: [KNAPP-L] DARIUS KNAPP In a message dated 7/24/98 2:35:55 PM, [email protected] wrote: <<Hi, I am looking for what seems to be a needle in a haystack. I don't have a lot of info. I have the name of the person I am looking for, but not a whole lot more. >> Okayyyyy.....Spirit, it's *only* a snippit or two, but I offer it to you anyway....LOL. I recognize the name Darius as a MEAD name, too. (Not sure if it came into the MEAD family through the Knapps, like CALEB or not...but there are several DARIUS listings in the Mead Genealogy, pub 1901, by Spencer P. Mead, LLB.) I see it appear in John Mead, Sr. to Jonathan (b. 1689) and his wife (I don't know her name). They moved from Greenwich, CT to Nine Partners, Dutchess County, NY *after having had *DARIUS* in Greenwich 28 Mar 1728 [Mead H&G, p. 306]--so Darius was named before their move to Dutchess Co., NY). I just checked a book called Settlers of the Beekman Patent: Dutchess County, NY., by Frank J. Doherty [Pleasant Valley, NY: 1990]. There is an Israel KNAPP listed there. Here is what it says.....page 231: (The year would be 1789) "The Supervisor's meeting held the 4th Tuesday in June allowed the following: To Israel KNAPP, for transporting Eleazer Yoemans into Orange County and for procuring assistance and furnishing provisions and paying ferries. 1/16." (From the appearance in the book, I guess this to be 1 pound, 16 shillings- mp)" Was this Israel KNAPP of Greenwich? Or just a man with a similar name? ------------------------ Also, I read that there was a migration out of CT to New Jersey about 1667. Henry LYON was Newark's first *innkeeper* [The LYON Memorial, Families of CT and NJ. Detroit, MI: 1907, p. 58) , and the KNAPP family had some innkeeping experience, too. William Finch, Jr., Historian Emeritus of the Town of Greenwich-- mentioned to me while on a trip there in June of 1994, that "the Mead, Lockwood, Knapp families were in the innkeeping business". (The *Israel* KNAPP Tavern, now known as Putnam Cottage, is the headquarters of a local chapter of the DAR maintains the Inn as a museum--complete with General Putnam's tricorn hat with the bullet hole in the brim.) I'm sorry I can't help you further, but it triggered some thoughts in my mind--and I thought I'd toss it to you. <g> Maureen [email protected]

In a message dated 7/25/98 4:04:51 AM, you wrote: <<>Tom Cornell... > My great-great-grandmother was Nancy M. KNAPP who married James BOVIER > in 1859 in Stueben Co. NY. The census says she was born in Delaware in 1842 > bu I suspect she was born in Delaware Co. NY. There was also a Nancy M. > KNAPP in the 1850 census of Peekskill, age about 60. Nancy was a daughter of > Joseph KNAPP and Caroline ATKINS(?). Joseph was a church deacon and (?) > minister. I am have a hard time finding his parents. Can you help? > > Danny > >> Hello! JudyKCski hosts a private chat for Steuben County, every Saturday on AOL. For those not members of AOL, she will post email queries to the meeting log and send the log to anyone who asks. Cousin Judy's email address is: [email protected]

In a message dated 7/25/98 9:39:45 PM, [email protected] wrote: <<Is William Finch, JR. on line? >> I don't know of any access to him online. He is at the William Finch, Jr. Archives quite often. The archives are on the grounds of the HSTG, the Bush- Holley House and Museum. Their address is: The Historical Society of the Town of Greenwich 39 Strickland Road Cos Cob, CT 06807 I believe he led a guided tour to the Tomac (Old Puritan) Cemetery in Cos Cob this Spring--so I'm hoping he's still active in the area. good luck! Maureen

Is William Finch, JR. on line? Strange as it may seem, I have an elusive Finch relative also. He is my grandfather, John William Finch and he had an uncle who was an interpreter in the high courts of England, named Thomas Finch. He (the uncle) was 103 and still traveling in the 1930-1960 time frame. Only remember my aunt telling about it. Somewhere in the family, either my grandfathers mother or grandmother, married an Indian, because my aunt used to say he was eligible to sign up for the Dawes commission, but his pride wouldn't let him. Don't know what that meant, but it was stupid. He was estranged from his family because they didn't like my grandmother, who had been married before. Spirit

In a message dated 7/24/98 2:35:55 PM, [email protected] wrote: <<Hi, I am looking for what seems to be a needle in a haystack. I don't have a lot of info. I have the name of the person I am looking for, but not a whole lot more. >> Okayyyyy.....Spirit, it's *only* a snippit or two, but I offer it to you anyway....LOL. I recognize the name Darius as a MEAD name, too. (Not sure if it came into the MEAD family through the Knapps, like CALEB or not...but there are several DARIUS listings in the Mead Genealogy, pub 1901, by Spencer P. Mead, LLB.) I see it appear in John Mead, Sr. to Jonathan (b. 1689) and his wife (I don't know her name). They moved from Greenwich, CT to Nine Partners, Dutchess County, NY *after having had *DARIUS* in Greenwich 28 Mar 1728 [Mead H&G, p. 306]--so Darius was named before their move to Dutchess Co., NY). I just checked a book called Settlers of the Beekman Patent: Dutchess County, NY., by Frank J. Doherty [Pleasant Valley, NY: 1990]. There is an Israel KNAPP listed there. Here is what it says.....page 231: (The year would be 1789) "The Supervisor's meeting held the 4th Tuesday in June allowed the following: To Israel KNAPP, for transporting Eleazer Yoemans into Orange County and for procuring assistance and furnishing provisions and paying ferries. 1/16." (From the appearance in the book, I guess this to be 1 pound, 16 shillings- mp)" Was this Israel KNAPP of Greenwich? Or just a man with a similar name? ------------------------ Also, I read that there was a migration out of CT to New Jersey about 1667. Henry LYON was Newark's first *innkeeper* [The LYON Memorial, Families of CT and NJ. Detroit, MI: 1907, p. 58) , and the KNAPP family had some innkeeping experience, too. William Finch, Jr., Historian Emeritus of the Town of Greenwich-- mentioned to me while on a trip there in June of 1994, that "the Mead, Lockwood, Knapp families were in the innkeeping business". (The *Israel* KNAPP Tavern, now known as Putnam Cottage, is the headquarters of a local chapter of the DAR maintains the Inn as a museum--complete with General Putnam's tricorn hat with the bullet hole in the brim.) I'm sorry I can't help you further, but it triggered some thoughts in my mind--and I thought I'd toss it to you. <g> Maureen [email protected]

>Tom Cornell... > My great-great-grandmother was Nancy M. KNAPP who married James BOVIER > in 1859 in Stueben Co. NY. The census says she was born in Delaware in 1842 > bu I suspect she was born in Delaware Co. NY. There was also a Nancy M. > KNAPP in the 1850 census of Peekskill, age about 60. Nancy was a daughter of > Joseph KNAPP and Caroline ATKINS(?). Joseph was a church deacon and (?) > minister. I am have a hard time finding his parents. Can you help? > > Danny > Here's all I have on my Knapp family. There was only one son, so there are probably not many Knapp-surnamed descendants. You'll have to excuse the MS Word index info (.i.surname, and ;). They are a pain in the neck to remove. With best wishes, Tom Cornell The Knapps K1. .i.Knapp, Samuel; Knapp was born 9 Aug. 1737 and married twice. By his first wife, he had five children: , .c.ZZ Gabriel Cornell (6C) Page ; K2A. .i.Knapp, Abigail;, m. .i.Cornell, Gabriel; Cornell (6C) K2B. .i.Knapp, Sarah;, b. 1770, m. (1) .i.DeGraw, Benjamin; DeGraw, m. (2) 9 Feb. 1827 to .i.Knapp, William; Knapp, d. 17 Apr. 1861 K2C. .i.Knapp, Mary (Polly);, m. .i.Gustin, Jesse; Gustin, son (.i.Gustin, Samuel Knapp;, others?) K2D. .i.Knapp, Phoebe;, m. .i.Decker, Aaron; Decker, d. bef. 1834, a neighbor of .i.Cornwall, Gabriel; Cornwall in 1800 at Warwick, N.Y., 2 sons (.i.Decker, Jesse;, .i.Decker, Samuel;) K2E. .i.Knapp, Julia;, m. .i.Longwell, George; Longwell Samuel married (2) .i.___, Abigail; ___ in Jul. 1799 and had two more children: , K2F. .i.Knapp, Ann;, m. .i.Weed, Sylvanus; Weed K2G. .i.Knapp, John D.;, b. after 1793 Samuel lived in the western part of the Town of Warwick, N.Y. Deeds locate his property in the so-called "Drowned Lands" west of the Wallkill River and the vicinity of Pochuck Mountain. His earliest deed was dated 1772. One piece of land was purchased from .i.MacGregor, A.; MacGregor (date unknown), and another bought in 1795 from .i.Thompson, William; and .i.___, Mary; Thompson was described as 140 acres in the first division on "Pochunk" Mountain. , It was part of the Waywayanda Patent, and the original patentee was .i.Honan, Daniel; Honan. On 5 Apr. 1806, Samuel sold 15 acres in this same area to .i.Gustin, Jesse; Gustin, his son-in-law, and, in 1826, 98.25 acres to his son, .i.Knapp, John D.; Knapp. , Among Samuel's neighbors were .i.Holly, William; Holly and .i.Taylor, Caleb; Taylor whose names appear in the 1775 Warwick Assessment Roll (Holly, Taylor), 1790 census (Holly, Taylor) and 1800 census (Taylor). , (Note: .i.Taylor, Caleb; Taylor's father .i.Taylor, Elias; was actually in the assessment roll and 1790 census. ) .i.Knapp, Samuel;'s will, dated 21 May 1815, was probated in 1834. He died 15 Jan. 1834 aged 96, according to his wife's deposition. He was presumably the Samuel Knapp listed in the 1775 assessment roll for Warwick Town (District No. 8 which included the area of Mount Eve, Amity, Pine Island and down to the New Jersey line) and the 1790 and 1800 census for Warwick. , Samuel was found by the Knapp family researchers and is listed in a book of "unconnected Knapps" with all the above children. Based on the similarity of the information, it is believed they found his will.

Tom, Thanks- I can't connect but Ihope someone will recognize some of my names. Danny

In a message dated 7/24/98 9:17:20 AM Central Daylight Time, KNAPP-D- [email protected] writes: << oome County [Daniel Byrne <[email protected]>] >> To Candice Bradley and all My family also came from the area near Knapp Hill. My fahter William Henry Knapp b.1902 in Franklin co. and my Mother Flora Maria Ling b.1911 also Franklin co. Knapp Hill is in St. Armand co. At least it is in the Geological Survey map I have dated 1898 and reprinted 1946...My Mothers , Mother name was Sylvia Green and her Father was Arthur Ling.....My sister has a lot of family records that she is sending me so I should have a lot of information about my family soon.......Frank D Knapp

Here is what I have on a New Jersey Knapp: "Hon. Manning M. Knapp, son of William Knapp, of Newton (New Jersey); born in that village; studied law with Col. Robert Hamilton, and was admitted as an attorney in July, 1846, and as a counselor in January, 1850. Shortly after his admission Mr. Knapp removed to Hackensack, N. J., and opened a law-office, where he has remained ever since. For many years he was a leading lawyer of Bergen County, possessing fine abilities, varied information, and excellent character. He is now (in 1880) one of the justices of the Supreme Court of New Jersey, having been appointed to that office by Governor Bedle in 1875." (See "History of Sussex and Warren Counties . . ." by James P. Snell, Phila., Pa., Everts & Peck (1881) at p. 190.) Perhaps Manning Knapp is a long lost cousin. Does anyone recognize Manning Knapp or know more of his ancestry? I am the five greats grandson of Abigail Jane Knapp, but she was Abigail Jane (Knapp) Hill when she came to New Jersey circa 1790. -Stephen On Fri, 24 Jul 1998 [email protected] wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for what seems to be a needle in a haystack. I don't have a lot > of info. I have the name of the person I am looking for, but not a whole lot > more. > > I am looking for the parents of Darius (Henry) Knapp, whose father came from > New Jersey. Don't know where in New Jersey, the cencus we found Darius just > said N.J. > Darius was born in OH. where his mother was born. > > We know his fathers first name was William. We found a family in possibly N.Y. > who has a Darias in it, but no other Darias/Darius. He could be related to our > William, but we don't know. > > His name was Darias Knapp, born 24 Apr 1805 died 24 Jun 1866. His father was > John Knapp and mother was Lois Wood. He married Polly Edwards, don't know date > of marraige. They had at least 5 children: Ebenezer, Elpha, Charles, Mary, > James. James was born in Johnston, N.Y. I have been looking for over 6 > years and this is the only clue that looks remotely promising. I got this info > from a lady I was in touch with when I was on Prodigy, back then. She and I > both left Prodigy when they hiked their prices so high and haven't found her > since. She left the day she gave me the info and I didn't even get her source. > If you have any resources, I would be so grateful. > > I have all of Darius children, as he is my gggrandfather and I was lucky > enough to have had an aunt, aged 98 with a clear mind who knew all that, but > she knew nothing prior to that on the Knapp (her mothers) side. They were not > communicative in that respect...... > They came to family reunions, etc., but nobody seemed to care about family > history, she said the only ones who knew didn't talk. > > Spirit > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** Stephen Emery Researching my ancestors University of Louisville Family names: Emery, Garris, Hektor, Louis D. Brandeis School of Law Hill, Horton, Knapp, Kubik, Kundrata, Louisville, KY Lee, Leport, Pipher, Warner, Woolsey "Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated." - Mark Twain

Sarah Jane Lambert w/o Thomas Knapp is the descendant of a criminal sent over mid 1700s for stealing shoes and a coat.... Sandy in Florida :-) On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Stephen C. Emery wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am always fascinated with stories of notoriety. While browsing recently > I saw this report from "Immigration, its evils and consequences", by > Samuel C. Busey, Published by DeWitt & Davenport, NY, (1856). > > "U.S. Consulate, Switzerland, March 27, 1856. > > "Sir: . . . Four authorities and cantonial goverments have been in the > habit of sending their paupers to the United States, merely securing their > passage to New York." > > During the 2d Session of the 28th Congress, Mr. Berrien made a report in > relation to the shipment of paupers and criminals to this country, > accompanied with the testimony from which the following is extracted. > Henry Lampaiter, jun., testified that he knew of > > "The instances of two persons--one named Christopher Brown, and one named > HENRY KNAPP (EMPHASIS ADDED)." And that he had "learned from a woman who > accompanied them, that they both had been sent to this country from a > house of correction in Brunswick." > > (There is more testimony about Europeans being sent to America from > almshouses and prisons.) > > Query: Does anyone claim descent from Henry Knapp, the criminal? > > Note: My family has tossed about a "tale" of my Emery family coming to > America from England to avoid a prison term for horse thievery. I have > been told that this did not occur - that the story could not be true. > While I haven't uncovered any truth to the tale, I have seen the above > mention practice discussed in several books. > > -Stephen > > ***************************************************************************** > Stephen Emery Researching my ancestors > University of Louisville Family names: Emery, Garris, Hektor, > Louis D. Brandeis School of Law Hill, Horton, Knapp, Kubik, Kundrata, > Louisville, KY Lee, Leport, Pipher, Warner, Woolsey > > "Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated." - Mark Twain > >

Tom Cornell... My great-great-grandmother was Nancy M. KNAPP who married James BOVIER in 1859 in Stueben Co. NY. The census says she was born in Delaware in 1842 bu I suspect she was born in Delaware Co. NY. There was also a Nancy M. KNAPP in the 1850 census of Peekskill, age about 60. Nancy was a daughter of Joseph KNAPP and Caroline ATKINS(?). Joseph was a church deacon and (?) minister. I am have a hard time finding his parents. Can you help? Danny

Hi, I am looking for what seems to be a needle in a haystack. I don't have a lot of info. I have the name of the person I am looking for, but not a whole lot more. I am looking for the parents of Darius (Henry) Knapp, whose father came from New Jersey. Don't know where in New Jersey, the cencus we found Darius just said N.J. Darius was born in OH. where his mother was born. We know his fathers first name was William. We found a family in possibly N.Y. who has a Darias in it, but no other Darias/Darius. He could be related to our William, but we don't know. His name was Darias Knapp, born 24 Apr 1805 died 24 Jun 1866. His father was John Knapp and mother was Lois Wood. He married Polly Edwards, don't know date of marraige. They had at least 5 children: Ebenezer, Elpha, Charles, Mary, James. James was born in Johnston, N.Y. I have been looking for over 6 years and this is the only clue that looks remotely promising. I got this info from a lady I was in touch with when I was on Prodigy, back then. She and I both left Prodigy when they hiked their prices so high and haven't found her since. She left the day she gave me the info and I didn't even get her source. If you have any resources, I would be so grateful. I have all of Darius children, as he is my gggrandfather and I was lucky enough to have had an aunt, aged 98 with a clear mind who knew all that, but she knew nothing prior to that on the Knapp (her mothers) side. They were not communicative in that respect...... They came to family reunions, etc., but nobody seemed to care about family history, she said the only ones who knew didn't talk. Spirit