The following KNAPPS are of record in the Clerk's Office, Monroe Co, Ohio. When a marriage took place an official was to return the notice to the Court for registration. Sometimes the marriages took place while others didn't. I assume since these entries are found in the Registers that they did in fact marry. The Court House burned in 1867 and all records before that time were lost for all time. I have no accountng for these Knapps, so hope someone can make use of this material. MARRIAGE REGISTER - 1867 - 1877 - MONROE CO, OHIO PAGE 53: KNAPP, Daniel married KNAPP, Lena on 9 Jan 1877 KNAPP, Sarah married ANKRIM, Jeremiah E on 25 Jun 1870 KNAPP, William married DOTSON, Margaret on 26 Dec 1870 KNAPP, William married WILSON, Martha L on 25 Feb 1872 KNAPP, William married TURNER, Margaret Ann on 9 Nov 1873 Fritz

[email protected] wrote: > me too. I love my own copy! AND don't forget to get the supplement, and > to correct all the things you can as people will inform you from time to > time. Are we talking about copies of A.A. Knapps "Nicholas Knapp Genealogy" book being for sale? --Wyatt Knapp--

Do they sell the supplement also? I've been trying to get a copy of it for years. I bought the original book from Higginson and it was well worth the $95 Mike Secora -----Original Message----- From: Rebecca R. Miller <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [KNAPP-L] Knapp Genealogy on Sale >me too. I love my own copy! AND don't forget to get the supplement, and >to correct all the things you can as people will inform you from time to >time. >Even then there are gaps and misconceptions. But oh well we make do as >best we can with what history has allowed. >rebecca knapp miller > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >

me too. I love my own copy! AND don't forget to get the supplement, and to correct all the things you can as people will inform you from time to time. Even then there are gaps and misconceptions. But oh well we make do as best we can with what history has allowed. rebecca knapp miller _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Alert to anyone considering buying the 1953 A.A. Knapp Genealogy. It's listed again at the $89.50 sale price in the July-August Genealogical Helper ad for the Higginson Book Co. You must mention the ad to get the sale price. Phone number for Higginson is (978) 745-7170 for credit card orders. Their mailing address: Higginson Book Co., 148-GH Washington St., Salem, MA 01970. It takes something like 8 to 12 weeks to receive a book from them after an order. I gather they print and bind to order. The Knapp book is big one: 8-1/2 x 11 x 2-1/2. Good wishes, Tom Cornell

In a message dated 98-08-30 18:28:05 EDT, you write: > > Alert to anyone considering buying the 1953 A.A. Knapp Genealogy. It's > listed again at the $89.50 sale price in the July-August Genealogical > Helper ad for the Higginson Book Co. You must mention the ad to get the > sale price. Phone number for Higginson is (978) 745-7170 for credit card > orders. Their mailing address: Higginson Book Co., 148-GH Washington St., > Salem, MA 01970. It takes something like 8 to 12 weeks to receive a book > from them after an order. I gather they print and bind to order. The > Knapp book is big one: 8-1/2 x 11 x 2-1/2. > I have had mine for about a month and I just love it. It is a beautiful hard bound book and BIG. It is well worth the Money. All told I paid $95 and it is worth every penny. Shirley

Dear Knapp researchers -- The following is the obituary my great great grandmother, Sarah Ann KNAPP Newberry, from the Penn Yan Democrat, 21 May 1909. I am interested in finding out more about her brother, Charles Bingley KNAPP (H-632 in the Nicholas Knapp Genealogy), and his descendants. I am also curious whether anyone has information on descendants of Mrs. Henry Baker (Lydia Carrie KNAPP, H-633 in the NKG) or Mrs. James M. Hall (Phoebe KNAPP, H-628 in the NKG). Here is the obit: Newberry -- In Rochester, May 19, 1909, Mrs. Sarah Newberry, aged 87 years. Deceased was born in Orange county, but lived in Yates county from 1850 to 1871. Since 1871 she has lived in Rochester. She died at the home of her son, Charles Newberry. Mrs. Newberry leaves three grandchildren, Mrs. Clara M. Wallace, Ira B. Newberry and Flora A. Newberry; one great-granddaughter, Mildred E. Newberry; two sisters, Mrs. James M. Hall, of Lakemont, and Mrs. Henry Baker, of Sugar Loaf, Orange county, and one brother, Charles B. Knapp, of Lakemont. Charles Knapp Newberry is my great grandfather and Flora Adella Newberry was my grandmother. Flora probably married around 1910. My father, Charles Edward Bradley, was born in 1912, and his brother, Alfred Filor Bradley was born 1914 and died 1988. Here are more details: Descendants of Jesse Holly Knapp Generation No. 1 1. JESSE HOLLY7 KNAPP (CALEB6, CALEB5, CALEB4, CALEB3, JOSHUA2, NICHOLAS1)1 was born August 30, 1793 in Orange County, NY, and died Bet. November 07 1885 - 1886. He married ELIZABETH R. GREEN2 April 23, 1818. Children of JESSE KNAPP and ELIZABETH GREEN are: i. MARY JANE8 KNAPP3. ii. PHEBE MARIE KNAPP4, b. April 15, 1819; m. JAMES W. HALL5, April 17, 18456. 2. iii. SARAH ANN KNAPP, b. July 14, 1822, Goshen, Orange County, NY; d. May 19, 1909, Rochester, Monroe County, NY. iv. JAMES SMITH KNAPP7, b. May 17, 1824; d. September 24, 1879; m. ELIZA K. ROE, January 16, 1851. v. MARTHA ELIZABETH KNAPP8, b. January 26, 1829; d. April 05, 1895; m. ANDREW S. SMITH, December 04, 1861. vi. CHARLES BINGLEY KNAPP9, b. May 06, 1833; m. JULIA WEBB, March 1866. vii. LYDIA CARRIE KNAPP10, b. February 29, 1836; d. Aft. 1909; m. HENRY C. BAKER, April 27, 1882, Sugar Loaf, NY. Generation No. 2 2. SARAH ANN8 KNAPP (JESSE HOLLY7, CALEB6, CALEB5, CALEB4, CALEB3, JOSHUA2, NICHOLAS1)11 was born July 14, 1822 in Goshen, Orange County, NY, and died May 19, 1909 in Rochester, Monroe County, NY. She married WILLIAM H. NEWBERRY12 November 24, 1842 in Goshen, Orange County, NY13, son of JOHN NEWBERRY and SALLY FANCHER. [Note: William's middle name is Henry] Children of SARAH KNAPP and WILLIAM NEWBERRY are: i. JOSEPHINE9 NEWBERRY, b. 1845, Broome County, NY. 3. ii. CHARLES KNAPP NEWBERRY, b. Abt. 1851, Broome County, NY; d. Abt. 1920, Rochester, Monroe County, NY. Generation No. 3 3. CHARLES KNAPP9 NEWBERRY (SARAH ANN8 KNAPP, JESSE HOLLY7, CALEB6, CALEB5, CALEB4, CALEB3, JOSHUA2, NICHOLAS1) was born Abt. 1851 in Broome County, NY, and died Abt. 1920 in Rochester, Monroe County, NY. He married FLORENCE DISBROW. Children of CHARLES NEWBERRY and FLORENCE DISBROW are: 4. i. FLORA ADELLA10 NEWBERRY, b. 1893, Rochester, Monroe County, NY; d. May 1933, Penn Yan, Yates County, NY. 5. ii. IRA NEWBERRY, b. Rochester, Monroe County, NY. iii. CLARA NEWBERRY, m. GILBERT WALLACE. Generation No. 4 4. FLORA ADELLA10 NEWBERRY (CHARLES KNAPP9, SARAH ANN8 KNAPP, JESSE HOLLY7, CALEB6, CALEB5, CALEB4, CALEB3, JOSHUA2, NICHOLAS1) was born 1893 in Rochester, Monroe County, NY, and died May 1933 in Penn Yan, Yates County, NY. She married EDWARD FILOR BRADLEY Abt. 1910 in Probably Rochester. Children of FLORA NEWBERRY and EDWARD BRADLEY are: i. CHARLES EDWARD11 BRADLEY, b. July 05, 1912, Rochester, Monroe County, NY; m. RENATA FANNY WOLF, December 25, 1949, Los Angeles CA. ii. ALFRED FILOR BRADLEY, b. March 21, 1914, Rochester, Monroe County, NY14; d. January 1988, Rochester, Monroe County, NY14; m. (1) LORETTA; m. (2) <UNNAMED>. 5. IRA10 NEWBERRY (CHARLES KNAPP9, SARAH ANN8 KNAPP, JESSE HOLLY7, CALEB6, CALEB5, CALEB4, CALEB3, JOSHUA2, NICHOLAS1)15 was born in Rochester, Monroe County, NY. He married <UNNAMED>. Children of IRA NEWBERRY and are: i. MILDRED11 NEWBERRY16, b. February 01, 1908, Rochester, Monroe County, NY17; d. January 12, 1992. ii. IRA NEWBERRY18, b. November 15, 1910, Rochester, Monroe County, NY. Candice Bradley Appleton, WI

Looking for info on John KNAPP born nov 1829,Darmstadt,Germany.Came to this country with parents in 1830.John's wife was Mary,no last name yet, she was also born in the same place in 1829.John and Mary had the following childern,Joseph,George,Mary,Barbara,Stephen,Elizabeth,Anna. All the childern were born in IND.John moved his family to Kilkenny,Minn around 1865,where he died 23 jun 1901.Looks like his wife, Mary died somewhere between 1870-1880,also in Kilkenny,Minn.One of the daughters,not such yet which one,was married to James Flannigan,also of Kilkenny.Any info on this family would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Thanks for the input. I'm not sure where it might fit in yet, but my family tree just keeps growing. Best regards, Dick

IONIA COUNTY, MICHIGAN - EARLY MARRIAGE RECORDS - INDEXED BY GROOM Found the following at http://bl-12.rootsweb.com/~miionia/more.txt KNAPP, A N married PETERS, PHOEBE A on 15 AUG 1865 KNAPP, BENAJAH married SMITH, MARY L on 31 DEC 1873 KNAPP, CHARLES married MILLER, ELIZA on 16 January 1865

Bill: Rev Isaac Knapp, is of the Nicholas Knapp Line [F-577, NKG, :202-203], which also says he was a Presbyterian Minister. His first wifes name was Jerusha Ellsworth [called "Rusha" in the Family Bible], daughter of Oliver Ellsworth of Windor & Berlin, CT. Jerusha was also called "Sally"???, a lecturer on Women's Rights and Temperance, d. 20/21 Jul 1814, Westfield, MA. Secondary writings indicate Isaac's date of birth as 2 Sep 1776, as does [supposedly] the Ellsworth Family Bible??? Seems correct as he was about 30-31 years old at his first marriage. Fritz ---------- > From: william l webster <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KNAPP-L] Unconnected Knapp's > Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 10:35 AM > > I found this in the library at Westfield, MA in the 1980s, Hope it helps > someone: > > Rev.Isaac Knapp married Rusha Ellsworth of Ellington CN in 1807. He > was born in 1774 and died 6 Jul 1874 age 73 in Westfield, MA. He was > pastor for 43 years of first Congregational Church. > Rusha was born 1779, died 20 Jul 1814, age 35 in Westfield, MA. She > joined the Westfield church 3 Oct 18, 1807 from Ellington, Conn. > He married second: Clarissa Hale of Branford, born 1875, died 20 Aug > 1841, age 58. The marriage certificate was issued 26 June 1815. Two sons > were Noah Atwater, baptized 1809 and George Ellsworth 1814-1882. Other > names and dates Charles 1845-1859 and Caroline 1827. > I sent this to an individual and have not seen it in the Knapp letter, > thought I would finally have something to share. > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >

I found this in the library at Westfield, MA in the 1980s, Hope it helps someone: Rev.Isaac Knapp married Rusha Ellsworth of Ellington CN in 1807. He was born in 1774 and died 6 Jul 1874 age 73 in Westfield, MA. He was pastor for 43 years of first Congregational Church. Rusha was born 1779, died 20 Jul 1814, age 35 in Westfield, MA. She joined the Westfield church 3 Oct 18, 1807 from Ellington, Conn. He married second: Clarissa Hale of Branford, born 1875, died 20 Aug 1841, age 58. The marriage certificate was issued 26 June 1815. Two sons were Noah Atwater, baptized 1809 and George Ellsworth 1814-1882. Other names and dates Charles 1845-1859 and Caroline 1827. I sent this to an individual and have not seen it in the Knapp letter, thought I would finally have something to share. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Tom: Like everyone, my ancestry involves many lines. One of mine is the Davenport/Danforth family of Quakers who came from England to New Jersey, migrated to New York and then on to far southern Indiana. I've been corresponding, by snail mail, with a delightful elderly Indianan who share a big piece of my ancestry. If I may, I will quote one part of an enclosure (it was written in 1987) to a letter I got from her this spring (she's always had trouble with punctuation; I'll try to quote with care): Henrietta Danforth married John Kilgore in Henderson County Ky Jan 26, 1834. Divorced in Warrick County IN August 1836. Married secondly to Karr Briscoe in Warrick County Indiana Oct 20, 1836. [I abridged here] Karr and Henrietta had a daughter Minerva Estrus Briscoe who married a Canadian ....Cornell. They had a large family raised near Newburgh Indiana but my (Uncle Arch Rhoades 1900-1985) said he had no knowledge of any "kin" named Cornell so I suppose that just didn't get Handed down in the family. --------- I have copies of both of Henrietta's marriage records and the divorce record, too, but absolutely nothing on the Cornells. Still since I had just reread this file last night and your note came through this evening, I can't help wandering if there may be a connection. I'm sorry she lists no first name for the Canadian Cornell. Duncan Morrow -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Cornell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, August 27, 1998 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [KNAPP-L] Unconnected Knapp's Pat, I have one page which was copied from the not all that great copy at the Allen Co. Public Library in Ft. Wayne, IN. That is the only place I've ever seen one. The page describes my Samuel Knapp and family and probably derives from his will and probate. How nice it would have been if the Knapp researchers had said so, but at least they did include him. You know Fred Knapp is around and probably has one, but the problem may be having the names in an actual data base or index so one can look them up. If the "Unconnected Knapps" book is strictly what I saw, it would not surprise me if there were very few originals and maybe only one which was then propagated by copies and copies of copies. I don't know how much Fred and the other family researchers have been able to put in a computer, but that seems like what we really need is a data base of known and unknown Knapps. I created one of these for my Cornells in Canada, and it was invaluable is figuring out my unknowns. My object was to find the children of my Cornell ancestor, and I had no idea where they were. So, I went meticulously through the census, cemetery records, etc. Gradually, I've been able to assemble whole families and then connect them together. I also had lots of great help, too. Somewhere I heard that Fred had records on around 100,000 Knapps, and that is orders of magnitude more than I had to contend with -- maybe 5,000 at most. Probably something this big would require an expensive professional data base program, lots of learning time to use it, and a big high speed computer. One way to pare it down would be to confine it to persons born before 1900, maybe even 1850. Many of us could probably afford a little time to enter data to accomplish this if we had the source material and some guidance as to format. For my Cornells, I use: name -- ID code -- born -- died -- father -- his ID code -- spouse -- page no of history Wherever possible, I estimate birthdates if they are unknown. If the children are listed in the right order and I later get dates, I find I'm usually not off too much. Even an error of 20 years gets you in the right ballpark. Doing one of these for the Knapp Genealogy would be the place to start. It's index is already pretty good and could be expanded upon. Wonder what exists already. Tom Cornell

Hi all, For those of you related to (or descended from) Seaman Knapp, b. December 16, 1833, Essex Co, NY: You might want to see if you can obtain a copy of "Southern Pioneers in Social Interpretation" edited by Howard W. Odum, copyright 1925 by the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, George Banta Publishing Co, Menasha, Wisconsin. Chapter V is devoted to Seaman A. Knapp. It covers his contribution to National Agricultural Training and his successful endeavor to overcome the problems faced in the South by the Boll Weevil in the early 1900's. He is actually a true American Hero. (I know this sounds melodramatic, but agriculture was the mainstay of the expansion in the Southern states and his contribution was vital to the farmers of this era.) There is confirming information on his ancestry and marriage in this text. There is also clear information concerning the dates of his movement from New York to Iowa, to Louisiana, Texas, and Washington, D.C. (where he died). His efforts in establishing and promoting the Farm Demonstration Work program (a federal agricultural training and testing program) continued as an important program even after his death. Seaman Knapp's efforts "played a fundamental part in the educational revival of the South, led to a nation-wide extension service for rural life throught the State Agricultural Colleges, and which has been studied and adopted in a modified form in several European countries." (See Ibid. at pp. 89-90.) A true American farming pioneer. -Stephen ***************************************************************************** Stephen Emery Researching my ancestors University of Louisville Family names: Emery, Garris, Hektor, Louis D. Brandeis School of Law Hill, Horton, Knapp, Kubik, Kundrata, Louisville, KY Lee, Leport, Pipher, Warner, Woolsey "Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated." - Mark Twain

Pat, I have one page which was copied from the not all that great copy at the Allen Co. Public Library in Ft. Wayne, IN. That is the only place I've ever seen one. The page describes my Samuel Knapp and family and probably derives from his will and probate. How nice it would have been if the Knapp researchers had said so, but at least they did include him. You know Fred Knapp is around and probably has one, but the problem may be having the names in an actual data base or index so one can look them up. If the "Unconnected Knapps" book is strictly what I saw, it would not surprise me if there were very few originals and maybe only one which was then propagated by copies and copies of copies. I don't know how much Fred and the other family researchers have been able to put in a computer, but that seems like what we really need is a data base of known and unknown Knapps. I created one of these for my Cornells in Canada, and it was invaluable is figuring out my unknowns. My object was to find the children of my Cornell ancestor, and I had no idea where they were. So, I went meticulously through the census, cemetery records, etc. Gradually, I've been able to assemble whole families and then connect them together. I also had lots of great help, too. Somewhere I heard that Fred had records on around 100,000 Knapps, and that is orders of magnitude more than I had to contend with -- maybe 5,000 at most. Probably something this big would require an expensive professional data base program, lots of learning time to use it, and a big high speed computer. One way to pare it down would be to confine it to persons born before 1900, maybe even 1850. Many of us could probably afford a little time to enter data to accomplish this if we had the source material and some guidance as to format. For my Cornells, I use: name -- ID code -- born -- died -- father -- his ID code -- spouse -- page no of history Wherever possible, I estimate birthdates if they are unknown. If the children are listed in the right order and I later get dates, I find I'm usually not off too much. Even an error of 20 years gets you in the right ballpark. Doing one of these for the Knapp Genealogy would be the place to start. It's index is already pretty good and could be expanded upon. Wonder what exists already. Tom Cornell

Looking for information of David KNAPP listed in the Warwick RI cencus of 1782 and 1790. In the 1782 census his household had 1 male age 22-49, 1 female age 22-49, 3 male age 0-16 and 3 female 0-16. In the 1790 census the household was 2 male over 16, 2 male under 16 and 9 females. Also looking for information on David KNAPP Jr of Warwick RI who married Anne Griffin of Exeter RI dau of Isaac on 8 Dec 1768. (West Greenwich Vital Records, Vol 2 p 5). Guy

Hi Does anyone on the list have a copy or part of a copy of the Unconnected Knapp's by Alfred Averill Knapp that's willing to scan or send out. What they might have. Patricia -- Patricia Knapp [email protected] Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

To Greg Lampman and Patricia Knapp: Any idea when John Knapp 1/25/1805-1/20/1884 may have moved to MN/WI? My 5xGGF, Samuel Knapp, had a son John D. Knapp who could have been born around that time. Samuel married a second time in Jul. 1799 and had a daughter first, then John. Samuel was b. 1737, by the way, and probably would not be having regular children like a younger man. Samuel lived at Warwick in Orange Co., New York, and I believe son John was there at least through 1850. Wish I had more information about him. I need to look for him in the NY census. Tom Cornell

Looking for the parents and siblings of these two mystery KNAPPs who are tied to my HOLMANs. James L. Knapp, married Elizabeth Holman, 1 Aug 1844 in Saline Co. AR. Don't know their ages nor their states of origin. Levisa Knapp b: ca 1820?, reportedly from KY, who was married to Thomas Holman, born in NC ca 1790-1800. They owned land in Saline and Hot Spring Counties AR in the 1820s-1840s. Don't know if James L. and Elizabeth Knapp are related to Thomas and Levisa Holman, but they are in the same area, at the same time, with the same last names. Elizabeth could have been Thomas' daughter/sister/cousin/aunt. However, if she was a daughter it is unlikely that Levisa was her mother. This leads me to believe that possibly Levisa was a second wife. Likewise James L. may have been a brother/cousin/uncle...or ex-husband? of Levisa. After Thomas Holman died in 1844 Levisa married a TRAMMELL. Any help with my mystery Knapps would be most appreciated! Thanks, Mynda Holman McGuire

Looking for the descendants of Louis/Lewis Knapp who lived in Bibb County Alabama in the 1880s or 1890s. I believe his wife's maiden name was Kahl but not positive. I have lots of info on Louis' parents and siblings, but nothing on Louis' descendants. Thanks Jeff Knapp