its true that disagreements can begin great growth, it also is true that religeous disagreements have caused great wars. no one disagrees that each person, in this country,at least, has a right to their own religeous convictions but to put religous texts on a genealogy forum defeats thepurppose of the person s who are only looking for lost family and takes away the joy of finding a lost one if one has to look at religeous tracts and bible verses.if you and our house serve the lord, thats great, but why do i need to know that o this forum?is this what you counsel your clients professionally? as for me, to imitate you, upon this rock i build my church, not protestant, catholic, etc. just my church. you are welcome to your beliefs,as am i,but this i not the place to defend them, at least, i don't think so. other members may think otherwise,if so,then we better start a forum devoted to those who are more interested in religeon than ancestors as such.