Irish civil registration of RC births began in 1864, so it should be easy to obtain the birth record (from the LDS Family History Center or elsewhere). That will identify not only the parents names, but also the father's occupation and the townland of residence. From there, you could go back to Griffith's Valuation, identify the RC parish for church records, and begin searhcing for siblings and for a record of the parent's marriage. Easy, huh? Chris Kirwan Jana Black wrote: > I received this privately, can anyone help Pat & France? I have invited > them to join us on the list as well. Jana > > Subject: Re: new KIRWIN list serv > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:16:22 +0100 > From: "Pat Mansfield" <patmansfield@clubi.ie> > To: <jblack@marin.k12.ca.us> > > Hi > the Kirwan which I am researching came from Dublin. She was Sarah Anne > Kirwan and her father was James Kirwan, her mother was Margaret Nolan > and > her grandmother was called Sally. Sarah Anne was born in 1869, and > married > in 1891 > France Mansfield