Welcome to our newest Kirwan! Can anyone help? Jana Subject: Re: KIRWAN Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:05:36 EDT From: MACb18@aol.com To: jblack@marin.k12.ca.us Searching for Mary (crilly) Kirwan b.Iowa abo.1900. They lived in NEBRASKA. Her husband was Laurence. Any info appreciated. Thank you

Irish civil registration of RC births began in 1864, so it should be easy to obtain the birth record (from the LDS Family History Center or elsewhere). That will identify not only the parents names, but also the father's occupation and the townland of residence. From there, you could go back to Griffith's Valuation, identify the RC parish for church records, and begin searhcing for siblings and for a record of the parent's marriage. Easy, huh? Chris Kirwan Jana Black wrote: > I received this privately, can anyone help Pat & France? I have invited > them to join us on the list as well. Jana > > Subject: Re: new KIRWIN list serv > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:16:22 +0100 > From: "Pat Mansfield" <patmansfield@clubi.ie> > To: <jblack@marin.k12.ca.us> > > Hi > the Kirwan which I am researching came from Dublin. She was Sarah Anne > Kirwan and her father was James Kirwan, her mother was Margaret Nolan > and > her grandmother was called Sally. Sarah Anne was born in 1869, and > married > in 1891 > France Mansfield

I received this privately, can anyone help Pat & France? I have invited them to join us on the list as well. Jana Subject: Re: new KIRWIN list serv Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:16:22 +0100 From: "Pat Mansfield" <patmansfield@clubi.ie> To: <jblack@marin.k12.ca.us> Hi the Kirwan which I am researching came from Dublin. She was Sarah Anne Kirwan and her father was James Kirwan, her mother was Margaret Nolan and her grandmother was called Sally. Sarah Anne was born in 1869, and married in 1891 France Mansfield

These two posts are from SHAMROCK, FYI. Jana << In a message dated 98-08-27 12:59:53 EDT, medwards@castles.com writes: << I saw a suggestion from Ellen about writing to editors of local weekly newspapers in Ireland. I am curious as to how that worked out. Did the editors publish your inquiries? >> Mary Anne, >> I am one of the success stories as a result of sending a letter to a newspaper in Ireland. I used the Westmeath Examiner, which by the way is on-line. The fact that my Grandparents came from Westmeath was one of the few things I was pretty sure of. Make sure that you include birth year if you know it, whether they were married in Ireland, wife's maiden name, and most importantly, the names of their children. Those children were probably named after Grandparents, parents, brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles. I spoke to my cousin in Westmeath two weeks ago (we speak once each month) and she said there were 19 letters in the newspaper from people looking for family. The Westmeath Examiner ran an article about my search for family in Westmeath, and my finding family because of my letter in the newspaper. It was very thrilling. Mary told me that there was one letter printed about a family she knew. She called the family to make sure they saw the letter. It does work. I do remember seeing a web site that listed all the newspapers from Ireland that were on-line, I'll try to find it again. Maybe someone out there already bookmarked it. But I don't know if they all publish letters of people looking for family. I just know that mine worked. Go for it, and good luck Kathleen Mary Anne, Eight years ago, my father wrote to the editor of a newspaper in County Cavan. However, my dad has his own weekly newspaper column here in the States, and had a suspicion that a general inquiry would be ignored. He therefore had the inquiry run as an advertisement! He received three answers from relatives on both his grandfather's and his grandmother's sides of the family. He was thrilled, and when he made a trip to Ireland later that year, he made a big point of seeing the relatives and taking pictures, etc. I believe he checked first as to how much such an ad would cost, but figured it was worth the cost when he got the responses -- a genealogist would have cost him a lot more! Besides, this way he had personal contact with a couple of fourth cousins, and a third-cousin-once-removed. I have also heard of people putting such an inquiry into the "Personals" column of newspapers -- although that seems to be exclusively used for matchmaking these days (at least here in my area.) You might ask them to run it as a Letter to the Editor, as well. Good luck! Lynn Reilly Marshall

In the graveyard of Couraganeen Church (Catholic church, built 1812), Bourney or Bournea Parish, Co. Tipperary (about 5 miles south of Roscrea) is the grave of Edmond Kirwan: "Edmond Kirwan died Oct. 4, 1837 55 Yrs. Wife Mary Lahey." This would make Edmond's birth year 1781 or 1782, I think, even allowing for the switch from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar.

Thanks Bonnybeth! I emailed the castle owners and Ann Marie sent me a prompt friendly reply saying she does have some Kirwan info. I offered to help her get the info posted for us all. Will keep you posted. Ann Marie also expressed that "the castle would be a great place to gather a few there is no doubt. Also try Galway Chamber of Commerce County Buildings, Galway as they used to run a festival for the Tribes of Galway, Kirwan being one." It absolutely warmed my heart to see an actual photograph of an actual place in Ireland where our bloodlines have walked and talked! Jana

Hi all, Have been watching this thread and wanted to post it in case it helps someone. BTW, the ShipsList is an excellent resource to locate passenger lists and emigration/immigration info for anyone who is at that point in their research. Subscription info is at the bottom of the post. Jana Subject: Re: Irish to America Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:50:09 +0000 From: brendan riley <genoans@sierra.net> To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com References: 1 Is there a similar book or article that focuses on the 1825-30 period, for immigrants coming from Ireland to Canada? My family (Riley) wound up in the Kingston, Ont., area. Other surnames include McComb, Judge, Lawson. Brendan Riley. Marj Kohli wrote: > Frank, > > There are a couple of books which were done for the 1847 year as that was > the bad year when over 8,000 people died of fever on the boats or in > hospital upon arrival. > > "A Register of Deceased Persons at Sea and on Grosse Ile in 1847" is from > Parts Canada. The same people also wrote a book with the day to day events > on Grosse Ile. (For those who do not know, Grosse Ile was the quarantine > station.) There are a few others but none that I know of with names in them > (except for the list of deaths and sometimes a few births or marriages if > they took place on Grosse Ile. I have asked Parks Canada how people can > obtain copies of this book but have not yet had a reply. Will let people > know when I hear. > > Regards.. > > At 08:59 AM 98/08/26 EDT, FranksFarm@aol.com wrote: > >Hi, > > > >There's been a lot of discussion about fares from Ireland being much cheaper > >to Canada than NY. > > > >I've looked at Michael tepper's outstanding work "The Famine Immigrants" > >which contains passenger lists from 1846-1851 to US. > > > >Is there a similar resource for this period to Canadian Ports.? > > > >If not what records might be available for looking up same? > > > >Thanks. Frank > > > > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >TO CONTACT Sharon mailto:todt@castles.com > >LISTOWNERS: Gery & Sue mailto:swig@ns.sympatico.ca > >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Tombstones are the diamonds we mine for in genelaogy, so I thought you might appreciate these, even tho they're not Kirwan: Epitaphs from real tombstones: On the grave of Ezekial Aikle in East Dalhousie Cemetery, Nova Scotia: Here lies Ezekial Aikle Age 102 The Good Die Young. In a London, England cemetery: Here lies Ann Mann, Who lived an old maid But died an old Mann. Dec. 8, 1767 In a Ribbesford, England, cemetery: The children of Israel wanted bread And the Lord sent them manna, Old clerk Wallace wanted a wife, And the Devil sent him Anna. Playing with names in a Ruidoso, New Mexico, cemetery: Here lies Johnny Yeast Pardon me For not rising. Memory of an accident in a Uniontown, Pennsylvania cemetery: Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake Stepped on the gas Instead of the brake. In a Silver City, Nevada, cemetery: Here lays Butch, We planted him raw. He was quick on the trigger, But slow on the draw. A widow wrote this epitaph in a Vermont cemetery: Sacred to the memory of my husband John Barnes who died January 3, 1803 His comely young widow, aged 23, has many qualifications of a good wife, and yearns to be comforted. A lawyer's epitaph in England: Sir John Strange Here lies an honest lawyer, And that is Strange. Someone determined to be anonymous in Stowe, Vermont: I was somebody. Who, is no business Of yours. Lester Moore was a Wells, Fargo Co. station agent for Naco, Arizona in the cowboy days of the 1880's. He's buried in the Boot Hill Cemetery in Tombstone, Arizona: Here lies Lester Moore Four slugs from a .44 No Les No More. In a Georgia cemetery: "I told you I was sick!" John Penny's epitaph in the Wimborne, England, cemetery: Reader if cash thou art In want of any Dig 4 feet deep And thou wilt find a Penny. On Margaret Daniels grave at Hollywood Cemetery Richmond, Virginia: She always said her feet were killing her but nobody believed her. In a cemetery in Hartscombe, England: On the 22nd of June * Jonathan Fiddle - Went out of tune. Anna Hopewell's grave in Enosburg Falls, Vermont has an epitaph that sounds like something from a Three Stooges movie: Here lies the body of our Anna Done to death by a banana It wasn't the fruit that laid her low But the skin of the thing that made her go. More fun with names with Owen Moore in Battersea, London, England: Gone away Owin' more Than he could pay. Someone in Winslow, Maine didn't like Mr. Wood: In Memory of Beza Wood Departed this life Nov. 2, 1837 - Age 45 yrs. Here lies one Wood Enclosed in wood One Wood Within another. The outer wood Is very good: We cannot praise The other. On a grave from the 1880's in Nantucket, Massachusetts: Under the sod and under the trees Lies the body of Jonathan Pease. He is not here, there's only the pod: Pease shelled out and went to God. The grave of Ellen Shannon in Girard, Pennsylvania is almost a consumer tip: Who was fatally burned March 21, 1870 by the explosion of a lamp filled with "R.E. Danforth's Non-Explosive Burning Fluid" Oops! Harry Edsel Smith of Albany, New York: Born 1903--Died 1942 Looked up the elevator shaft to see if the car was on the way down. It was. In a Thurmont, Maryland, cemetery: Here lies an Atheist All dressed up And no place to go To which a friend appends: I don't think it actually ever got carved and put in place, but Lord Byron wrote an epitaph to be carved on the headstone of his mortal enemy Lord Castlereagh. Posterity shall ne'er survey A nobler tomb than this Here lie the bones of Castlereagh Stop, stranger, and take a ----

I am hoping to learn more about John Kerwin, who married Catherine Mathews. They both were born in Ireland. Their daughter, Mary A. Kerwin was born in New York - Sept. 9, 1845. About 1865 Mary married Richard D. Van Volkenburg. She died Jan. 16, 1904 in Wayland, Michigan. I have information I can share on the children of this union, but I am longing to learn about my Irish roots. Sincerely, Sunny L. Tennant Sunnydale@cheerful.com

Carole is correct, time to get back to "subjects Kirwin," myself included! Jana Black Listowner, KIRWIN-L Mingzmom@aol.com wrote: > Enough already! This has been a happy, friendly group. Politics and religion > have their own outlets. This is for current and past family info -- although > I did greatly appreciate receiving the news of the bombing from an Irish and > probably more accurate source. My g-grandparents were R.C.'s -- but my > grandmother married out of the church -- so none of my family is. There is > only one God -- and he has managed to confuse all of us for reasons of his > own. > Carole Kirwin Gaskill Conner Beckner Shanahan

There is much revising of history going-on relative to the Christianizing of Ireland, and a lot of it seems to originate with English feminists of a decidedly weird disposition who seem to think that pagan Europe was a happy place, free of male hierarchies, when queens and witches ruled over a near-paradise. Unfortunately, West Cork, where I live, attracts English hippies and unhappy women by the multitude. They flock here to join communes or open businesses dedicated to aromatherapy, accupuncture, reflexology, various crafty arts and herbal medical arts of doubtful value. Of course in the matter of religion, they are all dedicated throwbacks to the cheerful paganism they seem to detect in their original readings of history.

Hi Tom, I am not quite sure about "what KIRWIN" stimulated this communication and I want to be sure we do not get too far off topic, however, if I am getting out of what you wrote what I think you were intending related to KIRWIN research.... My understanding is that you are reminding us as we do research, we must remember that in Ireland, as you mentioned, The Church of Ireland is only catholic (note lower case letters) in the sense that it is a member of a communion of united churches affiliated with what is called the Anglican Communion and is thus affiliated with the Church of England (or in the US, the Episcopal Church). This is different from the Catholic Church in Ireland (note Caps) which is affiliated with the Roman invaders to Ireland who converted hungry people with invitations to lots of food to practice their rituals. In other words, we must not assume that all Irish or KIRWINS are connected with what is known commonly as the Roman Catholic Church. Correct? Quick side note on this subject from my daughter's Irish dancing teacher, born in Galway... according to her, when the Romans did invade and try to use their conversion methods on the Irish, the Irish, being no dummies, did come to their feast days and eat their food and even did fine demonstrations of skilled local dance techniques in the church courtyards. In order, however to maintain their integrity as a people who had always followed other kinds of beliefs which the invaders called "pagan" the Irish hung onto their wit and wisdom by doing the dances in the church yards in a counter clockwise direction. This apparently was a clear message to all the gathered Irish to "meet in the fields" after they had eaten their fill, under the full moon to "party" using the traditional Irish rituals! Can't prove it but it sure smacks of the stubborn-but-smart resilience I have seen in not just a few KIRWIN cousins! Jana Tom Fitzsimmons wrote: > I know "Roman Catholic" is a common term, but it is often used with > emphasis on the "Roman" part with overtones of painting Catholicism > as a foreign, un-American kind of a religion.

Enough already! This has been a happy, friendly group. Politics and religion have their own outlets. This is for current and past family info -- although I did greatly appreciate receiving the news of the bombing from an Irish and probably more accurate source. My g-grandparents were R.C.'s -- but my grandmother married out of the church -- so none of my family is. There is only one God -- and he has managed to confuse all of us for reasons of his own. Carole Kirwin Gaskill Conner Beckner Shanahan

I know "Roman Catholic" is a common term, but it is often used with emphasis on the "Roman" part with overtones of painting Catholicism as a foreign, un-American kind of a religion. It is used in other ways, too, almost as what you might call the formal, full-name. For instance, my brother tells me that the Archdiocese of Philadelphia puts Roman Catholic right up there on the letterhead stationary. The Diocese of Bismarck has Roman Catholic on the big sign in front of the Diocesan offices. I learned from my Jesuit teachers that the full name of the Church is "The One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church" which is quite a mouthful, and it has traditionally been called the Catholic Church. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the rites, "Roman, Byzantine, Alexandrian, Armenian, and Maronite" were all part of the Catholic Church, and their bishops all recognize the primacy of the Bishop of Rome, the Pope. Of course, the Orthodox churches don't recognize the Pope, but seem to be more along the line of government-churches. The Anglican Church for example, has the Queen of England as their head. I don't know how the Lutheran Church in Norway handles it, but I think it is a government-church, too. Maybe its head is the King of Norway. I think Roman Rite would be the rite that is peculiar to the City of Rome or the Diocese of Rome, just as the Church of Rome would be the Diocese of Rome. Isn't there a Latin Rite which is distinguished from the Byzantine, Alexandrian, Armenian, Maronite, etc. rites? National Geographic magazine has a practice of writing "Roman Catholic" in any article that mentions the Catholic Church or its members. Oddly, this is done only the first time the name occurs in text, or in a caption. After that, it is "Catholic Church." I have also been a thorn in the side of the National Geographic on the subject. I think the magazine uses the term "Roman Catholic" because it tends to harken back to the days when the magazine was an expression of the old Ivy League, US Naval Academy, old-money types who would not be overjoyed to learn that people named "Kirwin/Kirwan/etc" or other such names were beginning to climb the economic and social ladder in the USA! In Ireland, The Irish Times newspaper, which is an elegant institution, full of learning, seems to use "Roman Catholic" all the time. This newspaper was the organ of the Anglo-Irish in Ireland for years, and was owned, managed, edited and widely-read by members of the government-church of Ireland, The Church of Ireland. In the USA, this is equivalent to the Episcopalian Church. I think the Irish Time's use of "Roman Catholic" is a vestige of the bad old days of British rule in Ireland. The other Irish newspapers use "Catholic." The Rev. Ian Paisley, who rejoices in the possession of a degree from Bob Jones University, and who was recently spitting abuse at Catholics who were under siege by the Orange Order marching men at Garvaghy Road, uses "Roman Catholic" exclusively. Enough said? To summarize, many people like me find "RC" and "Roman Catholic" to have the connotation of looking down the nose while pronouncing the term or the name, and I think the sooner it is allowed to fade-away from present-day discourse, the better. As I wrote before, you can't change history, so when the terms occur in documents or records, it is only honest scholarship to quote them as they occur.

I borrowered the book "From Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867" by Leonard H. Smith Jr. and Norma H. Smith and they list: Thomas Kerwin, tailor; b co. Waterford, Ireland; bur. Halifax 12 July 1821 ae. 40; Halifax June 1827 on Cumberland from Waterford, Ireland (327:61) Reference 327 refers to "Finding Our Irish", Nova Scotia Historical Review 6 (1986):1:41-62

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F9EA836F4A3D0893EF1647E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit somehow, this didn't get posted - let's try it again! --------------F9EA836F4A3D0893EF1647E9 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by marin.marin.k12.ca.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA22604 for <jblack@marin.k12.ca.us>; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:42:38 -0700 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14150 for owner-KIRWIN@lists2.rootsweb.com; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bl-4.rootsweb.com (rootsweb.com [204.212.38.29]) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA13936 for <KIRWIN-L@bl-30.rootsweb.com>; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1.uchsc.edu (ex1.UCHSC.EDU [140.226.1.140]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA04001 for <KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com>; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:45:42 -0700 Received: by ex1.UCHSC.EDU with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <QCXQLMVD>; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 13:43:54 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-From_: Bonnybeth.Hyde@UCHSC.edu Fri Aug 21 12:42:01 1998 Message-ID: <735AEE19A4C2D11197A300805FA6D27363492B@ex1.UCHSC.EDU> From: Hyde Bonnybeth <Bonnybeth.Hyde@UCHSC.edu> To: "'KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com'" <KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "'jblack@marin.k12.ca.us'" <jblack@marin.k12.ca.us> Subject: 1st Annual Kirwan Clan Gathering, July, 1999 Old-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 13:43:53 -0600 Old-Return-Receipt-To: Hyde Bonnybeth <Bonnybeth.Hyde@UCHSC.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: KIRWIN-L Content-Type: text/plain Okay, so the cat is out of the bag (and I didn't get to be the first to tell you, but I'm glad to hear that others are interested....) I have recently located relatives here in the Denver area, and we propose to host the 1st Annual Kirwan Clan Gathering (however you want to spell it) in Denver in July, 1999. Right now, we are aiming for the 3rd weekend in July, unless the plans change. It has been a busy summer for us Clan members, and we haven't had a chance to get together to start brainstorming on the plans. So, here are some thoughts... We would like to send out an invitation to those that we have addresses for, and when we do that, we will also post the updated information here. We are thinking a large potluck in a park somewhere (there's enough of us in the Denver area, I hope) that we should be able to put together a barbeque for all visiting relatives. This may require a small donation by those who will be attending ($5-10). When we start getting requests for information, we will then send out information on camping locations, hotels, and the like. In the evening, we can either keep barbequeing, or as you discover your long-lost relatives, go to dinner or for coffee, or ??? If we do a long weekend, perhaps we could even come up with other types of activities (which Colorado is certainly known for). As I said before, the three of us that have talked about this haven't had a chance to really figure out any of the details, but if you want to participate in the planning -- (OK, how many of you are in or near Denver?) -- any and all assistance/thoughts/etc. will be greatly appreciated. We are hoping to get together the weekend of 8/29 to start the planning process. I will give you the information on the other planners as I get their permission. Please feel free to contact me via e-mail or at home as listed below. Get your poster boards and start drawing that family tree NOW!!! :-) Bonnybeth Hyde Bonnybeth.Hyde@UCHSC.edu or enbbhyde@hotmail.com Work: (303) 315-9272 or Home: (303) 873-9322 --------------F9EA836F4A3D0893EF1647E9--

from SHAMROCK-L: for on-line townland information go to: http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/ire-srch. It's the IreAtlas site. Jana

To The Quinns in Australia in particular. I know what you mean about not being able to get back any further. I have only been researching for six months but I have been talking to people who have been trying for years and not made any significant headway, I am hoping the internet will help me. Well you have to have some hope, Doncha. Regarding your Quinns in Galway. My great grandmother Maria Quinn was born in Queenstown, Cork circa 1862 and came to Manchester. England in the late 1870s, she was here in 1881 for the census. She joined her sister Sarah who had married John Kerr. Another sister Bridget joined them about the same time. Maria married my great grandfather William Flynn born circa 1866 in Galway, they married 1901, I`ve made a note, and I`ll keep a look out for yours if you watch for mine. Regards. George Carter. From: Quinn family <tquinn@tpgi.com.au> To: KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com <KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 23 August 1998 13:30 Subject: Re: [KIRWIN-L] Re: KIRWIN-D Digest V98 #10 >George >I note your Kirwin (Kirwan) / Quinn connection >My grandmother Winifred Mary KIRWIN married grandad Walter William QUINN at St >Joseph Catholic Church GALWAY on 4 September 1910 >I have been unable to get back further or find any relatives except my Father - >Walter QUINN dob 22 June 1911. >Regards >The Quinns of Australia >http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/tquinn/

George I note your Kirwin (Kirwan) / Quinn connection My grandmother Winifred Mary KIRWIN married grandad Walter William QUINN at St Joseph Catholic Church GALWAY on 4 September 1910 I have been unable to get back further or find any relatives except my Father - Walter QUINN dob 22 June 1911. Regards The Quinns of Australia http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/tquinn/ --------------------------------------------------- George Carter wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: LeotaG@aol.com <LeotaG@aol.com> > To: KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com <KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 22 August 1998 03:10 > Subject: [KIRWIN-L] Re: KIRWIN-D Digest V98 #10 > > As far as I know the Carter in my line have remained in England, and mainly > in the Nort East, in fact I was born in Gateshead myself. > It would be nice to have an American cousin though, I think the best chance > of that is with my Irish lot, there was a lot of migration in the middle > 1800s as I expect you know, and I expect some of my ancestors could have > swam over your way. > The Kirwan - Carter connection is through the marriage of my parents. > Josephin Kirwan - Arthur Herbert Carter Nov 1946. > Josephine b 1926 dau of Joseph Kirwan & Sarah Flynn > Joseph Kirwan b 1900 son of Joseph Kirwan & Ellen Cobbe > Joseph Kirwan b 1864 son of Daniel, > and thats as far as I`ve got. > Thanks for the message though, I have not had a lot of response, At least I > know I`m getting through. > Good Hunting. > Regards. > George Carter. > Also researching. > LEIGH 1800s Cheshire > COBBE 1600s Cheshire > CHARLTON, CARR, CARTER, North Yorks & Durham. > HALLIDAY, 1850 Nottingham > FLYNN 1866 Galway IRE > QUINN 1860 Queenstown, Cork. > > : > > > >My ggrandfather was born in Dublin, Ireland, c 1801 and came to America in > the > >mid-1800's. My mother told me that he had relatives named Carter living in > >the Chicago area. Could you be part of those Carters? > >LeotaG@aol.com > > > >

Does anyone have any information for this person? Bonnybeth >Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 02:57:31 +0100 (IST) >From: Local Names <webmaster@www.local.ie> >Reply-To: webmaster@www.local.ie >To: enbbhyde@hotmail.com >Cc: >Subject: Kirwan - Kirwan/Kerwin > >A new message has been added to Kirwan re: Kirwan/Kerwin. > >I am searching for any family links to the following person: William Michael b) 15 June, 1848 Co. Galway, Ire d) 14 Dec., 1890 Jackson, MI USA Married) Mary Griffin b) 1850 Ire d) 1928 Jackson, MI Children: 1) Catherine A. 2) James A. 3) William M. > > > >The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: tadhg@oldesign.com >----------------------------------------------- >Please do not reply to this message. >It is an automatic notification of a new entry. > >Post any comments to: http://www.names.local.ie >----------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com