Hi list, Thought I'd start the ball rolling with recipes from my KIRWIN roots... ESCALLOPED CORN PUDDING (I have a Kirwin cousin on this list who will recognize her recipe! It is SO good!) Stir all together gently: 1/2 cup melted butter/margarine 12 oz. can whole kernal corn 12 oz. can creamed corn 2 eggs, beaten 1 cup sour cream Add: 1 small box Jiffy Corn Muffin Mix BAKE @350 about 45/60 minutes (should be firm when you shake it a little). Remove from oven. Sprinkle: 1 cup grated cheese (your choice) on top (note: we like it without the cheese, too!) IF there are leftovers, wait until completely cool and cut into slices. Reheat in toaster! YAMS IN ORANGE CUPS WITH PECANS (recipe begun by Kirwins and embellished by future generations!) Halve: 4 medium oranges and carefully remove pulp w/o punturing orange skin yield 1/4 cup orange juice and chopped pulp (you will have more than this) cut edges of orange cups into points, reserve cuttings and chop in food processor) Steam: 4 medium yams (or sweet potatoes) until tender, cool, peel and mash Combine potatoes with: 3 T melted butter or margarine 1/4 cup brown sugar 1/4 cup reserved orange pulp shredded orange rind (Wanda) 1 T Triple Sec Stuff orange cups with: potato mixture Combine and sprinkle over orange cups: 2 T chopped pecans 2 T molasses Place orange cups in baking pan, BAKE @ 350 about 30/35 minutes PUMPKIN CHEESECAKE (pie for the 90's!) Combine: 1 cup Ginger Snap crumbs (chopped in food processor) 1/2 cup finely chopped pecans 3 T melted butter (my mother NEVER used margarine - she hated it !) Press crumb mixture into the bottom of a spring form pan Combine and pour over crumb mixture: 1 8 oz. pkg. softened cream cheese 1/4 cup butter 1/2 tsp vanilla 1 egg Combine and carefully pour over cheese mixture: 1 16 oz. can plain mashed pumpkin 1 5 oz. can evaporated milk (low fat is fine) 1/2 cup sugar 2 eggs, slightly beaten 1 tsp cinnamon 1/2 tsp ginger 1/2 tsp nutmeg pinch of salt BAKE @ 325 for 90/95 minutes, until set Cool before removing from pan, serve chilled I am wishing that you all have the chance to be with those for whom you are the most thankful and get the chance to truly celebrate family! Jana Black Listowner, KIRWIN-L

Hi, folks! Both my husband and I are sick this week. I was supposed to start a new job yesterday...I suppose a shot of Irish whiskey would cure anything. In any case, I transcribed my gggrandfather's store journal. His name is James Kerwin and he owned a store in Java, New York in the 1870's. I will be typing it up and submitting to the NY Wyoming County Gen Web project. I don't have a personal or family web page yet. Just too time consuming at the moment to start and maintain. It's a very small journal, not very comprehensive nor complete. But interesting all the same. It will be posted with all the spelling variations intact. I'll let you know when I am ready to submit it...probably by the end of the month. There are very few names, but all five of James' children and two of his grandchildren (my grandmother and her sister) have their birthdates listed in this little gem of a book. Just thought I'd share with everyone. THanks! P.S. How are plans for the Kerwin reunion coming? Cheers! Jennifer L. Williams This program is close captioned for the thinking impaired.

Hi Jennifer (and all you other loveable Kirwans...) Just a note on the reunion - haven't had the time to work on the mailing list this last week, but the bosses will be out of town for the next three days, so I hope to make headway. Send me those addresses! P.S. I will also send out an e-mail version of the Reunion info to this list. Hope all is well with everyone out there -- Denver had a lovely 73 degrees this Sunday last! I still can't believe it.... >Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:42:36 -0500 >From: Jennifer Williams <mzngrace@boone.net> >Subject: [KIRWIN-L] Kewin journal >To: KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com > >Hi, folks! Both my husband and I are sick this week. I was supposed to >start a new job yesterday...I suppose a shot of Irish whiskey would cure >anything. In any case, I transcribed my gggrandfather's store journal. His >name is James Kerwin and he owned a store in Java, New York in the 1870's. >I will be typing it up and submitting to the NY Wyoming County Gen Web >project. I don't have a personal or family web page yet. Just too time >consuming at the moment to start and maintain. > >It's a very small journal, not very comprehensive nor complete. But >interesting all the same. It will be posted with all the spelling >variations intact. I'll let you know when I am ready to submit >it...probably by the end of the month. There are very few names, but all >five of James' children and two of his grandchildren (my grandmother and >her sister) have their birthdates listed in this little gem of a book. Just >thought I'd share with everyone. THanks! > >P.S. How are plans for the Kerwin reunion coming? Cheers! >Jennifer L. Williams > > This program is close captioned > for the thinking impaired. > > >==== KIRWIN Mailing List ==== >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: we hope you won't BUT we won't take it personally either! >email KIRWIN-L-request@rootsweb.com and write in only the word >UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body. No subject necessary..... > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello Kirwan cousins (note the spelling, since that's how MY Kirwans spelled it <g>) I recently purchased the British Isles VItal Records Index from LDS, which contains birth and marriages from 1538 - 1888. If any of you would like a Kirwan (or other family line) lookup, please e-mail me directly. If it is okay with Jana, maybe I will post the Kirwan responses to the list (if there are not too many). The CD only contains LDS index info, but will list parents names and places. It will also list any other children by that set of parents. I found several unknown siblings this way. The CD is by no means complete, contains about 5 million names, and most data is from civil registration. I was told the info on this CD is not duplicated in the IGI, and that has been my experience with my lines. Please provide as much info as you have, but the search features are pretty neat! Mary K maryrk@aol.com

Searching for MARY KIRWIN born 1799 in Ireland. She married JOHN KEEGAN and they went to Quebec and had daughter ANN KIRWIN b 1833 and a daughter MARY KIRWIN b 1840. Both were born in Frampton, Quebec. If your KIRWIN's were in Quebec, please email. Karen

Hmmmm, I assumed this got posted since it was cc-ed by Gerald to the list, but a note from Mingzmom suggests not! Here is what he sent me... didn't mean to keep you all in suspense! Jana Subject: Re: [KIRWIN-L] Chateau Kirwan Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:21:45 -0800 (PST) From: Gerald Kirwan <kirwan@pobox.com> To: jblack@marin.k12.ca.us CC: KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com At 03:16 PM 11/9/98 , Jana Black wrote: > We know the family has had at least two castles and one Winery (anyone looked to see if Chateau Kirwan in France has a website?). The website of Chateau Kirwan in France is: <http://www.margaux.org/chateaux/KIRWAN.htm>. I have a case on hand in case any Kirwans stop by. Gerald

Hey Gerald, Just supply your address and we'll all be there for Turkey Day ala Chateau Kirwan! We'll be the turkeys, you can supply the Kirwan AND the translation for that lovely French webpage (my 2 years of high school French applied 30 years later somehow didn't quite cut it!). 'Twas impressive! ;] Jana Gerald Kirwan wrote: > At 03:16 PM 11/9/98 , Jana Black wrote: > > We know the family has had at least two castles and one Winery (anyone > >looked to see if Chateau Kirwan in France has a website?). > > The website of Chateau Kirwan in France is: > > <http://www.margaux.org/chateaux/KIRWAN.htm>. > > I have a case on hand in case any Kirwans stop by. > > Gerald

Hi list, As of this morning, there are now 40 of us sharing information! Welcome to all our new subscribers - PLEASE POST whatever you know, wherever you are stuck and let us get to know you! We have already had plenty of evidence that WIT is a Kirwin/an trait, and the more we all let each other know each of us, the better we can understand ourselves. We hail from Ireland, England, USA, Canada and Australia, so far - let me know if I missed any countries/continents. We know the family has had at least two castles and one Winery (anyone looked to see if Chateau Kirwan in France has a website?). Personally, I am trying to "get with" the upcoming season (in the "bleegh" mode so far...) and thought perhaps we could all give ourselves a Thanksgiving Treat. We cannot gather as an extended family in person but perhaps we could share our favorite KIRWIN/AN STORIES or RECIPES and post them in a Thanksgiving BLITZ??? I suspect that in sharing our stories we will all know why we belong in this clan! Suggested conversation starters: 1)Tell us a story of a Kirwin relative; good, bad, funny, sad - all accepted! 2)Tell us of your travel experiences to "unearth" Kirwin/ans anywhere, anytime 3)DO pass along any RECIPES that originated with your Kirwin/an roots 4)Tell us about any holiday traditions that you consider to have Kirwin/an roots Got anything else you'd rather share? Share it! It doesn't have to be long and you now have 2.5 weeks notice to prepare! Write something up and begin posting WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 25th (while the pies are in the ovens in the USA).... Just think, you have always intended to get "that story" written down... here is your chance! Jana Black Listowner, KIRWIN-L

Jana - Don't feel bad -- my French from high school did me even less help! Gerald - What is your address and what time should we all arrive? :-) Bonnybeth >Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:53:02 -0800 >From: Jana Black <jblack@marin.k12.ca.us> >Reply-To: jblack@marin.k12.ca.us >Subject: Re: [KIRWIN-L] Chateau Kirwan >To: KIRWIN-L@rootsweb.com > >Hey Gerald, > >Just supply your address and we'll all be there for Turkey Day ala Chateau >Kirwan! We'll be the turkeys, you can supply the Kirwan AND the translation >for that lovely French webpage (my 2 years of high school French applied 30 >years later somehow didn't quite cut it!). 'Twas impressive! ;] > >Jana > > > >Gerald Kirwan wrote: > >> At 03:16 PM 11/9/98 , Jana Black wrote: >> > We know the family has had at least two castles and one Winery (anyone >> >looked to see if Chateau Kirwan in France has a website?). >> >> The website of Chateau Kirwan in France is: >> >> <http://www.margaux.org/chateaux/KIRWAN.htm>. >> >> I have a case on hand in case any Kirwans stop by. >> >> Gerald > > > > >==== KIRWIN Mailing List ==== >If you have other IRISH roots to research, try subscribing to SHAMROCK-L >@rootsweb.com. Maura Petzolt capably hosts this very informative list >for all related to Irish roots research. Very friendly, no politics! > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Stop me if I've already posted this. There is a gravestone in the old Couraganeen churchyard, Bournea (Bourney) Parish, Roscrea, County Tipperary for Edmond KIRWAN, died October 4, 1837, age 55 years. The stone was erected by his wife, Mary LAHEY. That makes Edmond born in 1781 or 1782, which is getting pretty far back in Irish records.

Hi List! Bonnybeth Hyde asked me to post this for her... all replies should go directly to her rather than to the list! Subject: Kirwan et al Reunion Mailing List Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:33:49 -0700 From: Bonnybeth Hyde <enbbhyde@hotmail.com> or <enbhyde@uswest.net> Hello there, kin! Sorry I haven't been in touch -- still trying to catch up from the crazy summer I had! I have finally started working on the mailing list for the upcoming Kirwan/Kirwin/... (ok, enough bickering over the spelling!) Reunion to be held in Denver, July 1999! If you would like to be on this list, please e-mail me your information (spouse name included) and I will get going on it. Please use my home e-mails: enbbhyde@hotmail.com (two "b"s) or enbhyde@uswest.net (one "b"). I am putting together the addresses I have so far, and the initial mailing will include everyone, and then once I can get an idea of who is REALLY interested in coming to Denver in July, those people will continue to get the mailing. I could go broke doing this! Has anyone found our rich uncle yet? I could use his help... :-) Start thinking about putting together a poster board that shows your own Kirwan family history (that you know of). That way it can help facilitate the process of finding out more information you may not already have, not to mention how we are ALL related! Best wishes to all, Bonnybeth J. Hyde

Forgot to mention that all this land ownership and British stuff took place in the 1400's.

I have found several books on Irish family names. While I personally don't care much if my long-dead ancestors were royalty or sheep herders, some people apparently do. So I suggest you look for a book called "Irish Family Names -Arms, Origins and Locations" by Brian de Breffny or "Irish Families, Their Names, Arms and Origins" by Edward MacLysaght.Both of these books (and others) lend light on ancient Irish history -- and names. The Kirwans (and that's how it was spelled once it was Anglicized were one of the original true Gaelic families. They were great land owners and leaders in Galway and one of the so-called "Tribes".They were the Gaelic O'Ciardubhain sept.I found many Kirwan graves in the cemeteries outside Dublin years ago -- but that is a long way from where the original tribe lived. They were land owners before the British over ran them and took their land away. There were only two "tribes" of pure Irish (Gaelic)stock -- and the Kirwans were one of them. O'Ciardubhain can be translated (loosely) as DARK. Perhaps because the Kirwans had dark hair. My own Kirwans (from Ireland) had black hair and blue eyes. Carole S.

Found this at http://www.r-alston.dircon.co.uk/country_house_database.htm Have fun - Jana BELCLARE gal Castle Hacket Kirwan 1720+ Burned 1923. M. Bence-Jones, A Guide to Irish Country Houses, London, 1988. CORRANDULLA gal Cregg Castle Kirwan - Blake - Hyde 1648+ Altered 18 cent. Acquired by James Blake ca. 1780. Home of Richard Kirwan, chemist. M. Bence-Jones, A Guide to Irish Country Houses, London, 1988.

The October issue of the Septs (the Journal of Irish Genealogical Society, Intl.) lists two Kerwin researchers: Myrtle Van Dyke, 6216 Terrace Dr, Johnston, IA 50131 is looking for information on Kerwins from Co. Waterford who came to St. Paul MN. J. W. Kreth, 606 Cambridge Pl., Little Rock, AR 72227 is looking for information on Kerwins from Kildare/Cork who went to MO. Chris Kirwan

Somerset Co., MD Marriage Licenses 1796 - 1832 by groom surname This data may be viewed in html format at the Somerset County MDGenWeb site (http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsomers/somerset.htm) File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by Jerry Foard and Dan Thomas. USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free information on the Internet, data may be freely used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by other organizations. Somerset and Wicomico Counties Somerset County Marriage Licenses 1796 - 1832 List by GROOM Surname These records were transcribed from microfilm (LDS film 0014417 and 0003602) by Jerry Foard. Says Jerry, “ I attempted to spell names as found on films .... my pleasure to contribute as researching Maryland from afar is difficult to say the least....” Thanks, Jerry, for providing this data! After Jerry sent this data and I put it up on the web, Dan Thomas generously sorted the data, giving us an A-Z list by GROOM surname, and another A-Z list by BRIDE surname. This makes the data easier to search, and doubles the usefulness of the list. Thanks very much, Dan! The following is a quote from the microfilm: “The above list is a list of marriage licences issued by the clerk of the Circuit Court for Somerset County on the dates specified, and contains the names of both white and colored couples without anything to mark distinction, aalthough there are very few colored names in the list. The lists from May 1805 to May 1807 have been lost or mislaid an cannot be found. The balance of the years are complete. Some few names are illegible and some uncertain. The list is the best that can be made from the old papers.” Kirwin Elliott m. Nutter Tempy 18May1808 Kirwin John m. Horner Susan 24Sep1824 Kirwin Phillip m. Whitoley Elizabeth 06Jul1825

Look what I found using the new Rootsweb Search Engine!!!! http://searches.rootsweb.com/htdig/search.html St. Joseph's Cemetery, Town of Fleming, Cayuga County, New York. These records were acquired directly from the Office of the St Joseph's Cemetery Assn., Lake Avenue, Auburn, NY 13021. Additional information such as, age and marital status at death, date of burial, and parish may be found in the original records available from the Cemetery Office. The St. Joseph's Cemetery records are also on microfilm at the Cayuga County Historian's Office. Thanks to the St. Joseph's Cemetery Assn. for providing a digital copy of these records and thanks to Kathleen Shaw Decker for her efforts in obtaining these records. ************************************************************************ USGENWEB ARCHIVES NOTICE: These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by any other organization or persons. Persons or organizations desiring to use this material, must obtain the written consent of the contributor, or the legal representative of the submitter, and contact the listed USGenWeb archivist with proof of this consent. ************************************************************************ Last Name First Name Date of death Nativity Section Lot Grave Place of Death Cause of Death Kirwan Alice 03/10/1988 Auburn,N.Y. 29 91 1NW Auburn,N.Y. Myocard. infarction Kirwan Anna 02/08/1953 Scipio,N.Y. 29 91 2-SW Auburn,N.Y. Cancer of liver Kirwan Bridget 06/14/1902 Ireland 19 68 1-SW Auburn,N.Y. Kirwan Catherine 05/02/1928 Ireland 17 15 4-SE Auburn,N.Y. Senility Kirwan James 09/10/1991 Auburn,N.Y. 63A 3 1-S Auburn,N.Y. Natural Causes Kirwan James 07/29/1941 Auburn,N.Y. 15 2 15 Auburn,N.Y. Myocarditis Kirwan John 10/30/1934 Auburn,N.Y. 29 91 2-NE Auburn,N.Y. Appendicitis Kirwan John 05/26/1952 Auburn,N.Y. 17 15 3-NE Sennett,N.Y. Coronary Kirwan Lillian 11/02/1992 Auburn,N.Y. 25 111 1-SE Willard, N.Y. Natural Causes Kirwan Margaret 07/19/1930 Ireland 20 30 1-SE Auburn,N.Y. Pneumonia Kirwan Mark 08/17/1964 Auburn,N.Y. 29 91 1-NE Auburn,N.Y. Stillborn Kirwan Mary 07/13/1983 Lockport,N.Y. 63A 3 1-N Auburn,N.Y. COPD, Respiratory Kirwan Patrick 02/22/1890 17 15 4-NE Auburn,N.Y. Kirwan Patrick 01/23/1941 Auburn,N.Y. 20 27 2-NW Auburn,N.Y. Coronary occlusion Kirwan Redmond 04/15/1902 Ireland 19 68 2-SW Auburn,N.Y. Blood poison Kirwan Theresa 03/13/1914 Virginia 29 94 1-NE Auburn,N.Y. Heart trouble Kirwan Thomas 04/02/1929 Ireland 20 30 2-SE Aurelius,N.Y. Appoplexy Kirwan Thomas 11/15/1970 New York State 29 91 1-SE Auburn,N.Y. Cancer Kirwan Thomas 01/14/1947 Auburn,N.Y. 29 91 1-SW Auburn,N.Y. Arteriosclerosis Kirwan William 03/11/1926 Ireland 11 35 2-SE Auburn,N.Y. Chronic bronchitis Kirwin Bridget 09/07/1894 Ireland 20 30 4-NE Auburn,N.Y. Congestion of Lungs Kirwin Catherine 11/01/1937 11 35 2-NW Auburn,N.Y. Senility Kirwin Helen 05/20/1911 Auburn,N.Y. 29 91 1-NE Auburn,N.Y. Intestinal trouble Kirwin James 08/10/1893 United States 11 35 1-SW Auburn,N.Y. Cholera infantum Kirwin James 06/05/1965 Ireland 33 25 1-S Auburn,N.Y. Arteriosclerosis Kirwin John 09/18/1957 Auburn,N.Y. 11 35 1-SE Auburn,N.Y. Heart Kirwin John 01/17/1946 Syracuse,N.Y. 20 30 1-SW Auburn,N.Y. Heart Kirwin Leona 10/26/1979 Auburn,N.Y. 20 30 2-SW Rochester,NY Heart failure Kirwin Mary 10/18/1894 United States 20 30 4-SE Auburn,N.Y. Typhoid fever Kirwin Mary 08/07/1919 Ireland 11 35 2-NE Auburn,N.Y. Cerebral hemorrhage Kirwin Patrick 01/01/1909 Ireland 11 35 2-SW Auburn,N.Y. Dropsy Kirwin Thomas 09/29/1913 Auburn,N.Y. 17 15 2-SE Oneida,N.Y. Accident Kirwin Thomas 03/27/1907 Ireland 20 30 3-NE Auburn,N.Y. Injured Kirwin William 09/18/1945 Auburn,N.Y. 11

Sarah Kirwan married Cornelius DOOLEY (DULEY) perhaps in 1850 in Bourney Parish, Tipperary. Cornelius was born in 1816 and Sarah was born in 1830 (from 1860 NY census, Worcester, Otsego County), so the dates are all reasonable. After Cornelius died before 1870, Sarah KIRWAN Dooley moved to Clinton County, OH with her CHILDREN VALENTINE, CORNELIUS (CONN), ANNA, MARY FRANCES, AND CATHERINE I have located all the descendants of Cornelius and Sarah except the descendants of their daughter,ANNA DOOLEY CREEDON. MARY FRANCES married a GLEASON, the only son of John Gleason and the widon REARDON, nee KILMARTIN. GLEASON and KILMARTIN may also have come from the Bourney region near Roscrea in Tipperary. I am looking for siblings or ancestors of Sarah and Cornelius in either Ireland or the USA. Mike Dooley Check out my web site: http://home.hiwaay.net/~mjdooley/ Race Results: http://www.huntsvilletrackclub.org/

Kinda fun info, FYI... For more information on the Claddagh symbol you might try this website: <A HREF="http://www.volition.com/CladdaghInn/symbol.htm">The Claddagh - A Gaelic Symbol of Love</A> Jana

Hello Kirwin Cousins! Just a wee bit of interesting information regarding my ggrandmother, Elizabeth KIRWAN HUGHES DARLINGTON (she was married once before she married my ggrandfather). The information I have found so far indicated both Elizabeth and Francis (my ggrandfather) were born in 1872, and were married in 1894, making them both 22 at the time. I thought this unusual, since I knew Elizabeth was already widowed with at least two children, but whatever... I could not locate a record of her birth either in the years before or after 1872. Even her death certificate indicated that to be the year of her birth. Then, while checking the soundex for the 1920 NYC census (the family emigrated from Dublin), I found her age stated as being 11 years OLDER than my ggrandfather. This made much more sense to me, given the fact that she had three children by her first husband. I went to her grave during my recent visit to NYC, but no date of birth was on the stone, just the date of death. Anyway, I found it to be a bit amusing that she lied about her age on her marriage certificate, my ggrandfather lied for her on her death certificate, but they told the census taker the truth!!! Mary Kleindienst