If you can trace your branch to the Kirkpatrick's from Closeburn Dumfriesshire, I would like to hear from you. My branch of the name can be traced back to a Robert Kirkpatrick, born in 1754, son of Robert Kirkpatrick and Margaret Goldie. He married Margaret Gibson in 1784, and had 11 children. He was at one time a farmer in Auchencairn farm. He died in 1830. I also have information on other Kirkpatrick families From Dumfriesshire. Most of these are unlinked. It would be great if I could link some of them together. Regards Ian Kirkpatrick.

Looking for info on ALTON WILLIAM KILPATRICK. He was born 28 January 1947 in Alabama, possibly Enterprise, Coffee County, Any help on Alton and his family would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Sherry [email protected]

My sincere apology to those of you who received two or even more of the message regarding this discussion list. Haste truly makes waste..... Joyce

KIRKPATRICK, Bernice M; ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo News; published 1997-9-8

KIRKPATRICK, Violet E (PEDEN); 80; Davenport IA; Quad-City Times; published 1997-8-26;

I am searching for info on ancestors and descendants of Alton William Kilpatrick. The only information I have on him is that he was born 28 January 1947 in Alabama and died September 1983 in North Carolina. What are his parents, brothers and sisters names? Any help and info would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks! Sherry Cornwell [email protected]

Seeking descendants of Samuel Kirkpatrick, b.Feb 1822, Bond Co., IL, supposedly died 1906 Litchfield, IL. Was the son of James Harrison and Nancy (Hufner) Kirkpatrick. J.H. was a lead miner in IL, WI and IA, and remarried after Nancy died when Samuel was quite young. A Kirkpatrick history book says Samuel moved (back) to IL, and was in the lumber business in Litchfield. But only two children are mentioned in the will of J.H., who died 6 Jul 1876 in Platteville, Grant Co., WI: Mary (Kirkpatrick) Williams, my GGGM, and Eliza Kirkpatrick. Can anybody else establish a connection between J.H. and the Samuel described above? Scott

This was just posted to the listowner's list and I thought it might be of interest to all of you who don't necessarily know what has been going on regarding the existence and future of the lists. If anyone has a problem with this post, please contact me privately. Thanks! Joyce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sponsor (Summary & Response) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 11:01:40 -0700 From: Brian Leverich <[email protected]> To: RootsWeb ListOwners <[email protected]> CC: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <[email protected]> Hi all - I'm sorta hoping this post will tie off the discussion on RootsWeb Memberships / Sponsorships, but you can of course carry on if there's more interesting to say. ### The first thing I'd like to do is make sure that everyone understands that the RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative isn't Broderbund and *all* of RootsWeb's facilities are available for free. Most of what we do is completely free, and even nominally Member- or Sponsor-only facilities like mailing lists are available freely to folks who can't help support the site at this time. That's part of what the "Cooperative" in our name means. ### The second thing is that while we *greatly* appreciate the listowners who do actively support RootsWeb, nobody is under any obligation to do so. *NO* obligation at all. About the only thing we ask of listowners is that they understand that we're user- supported and that there's no other sponsoring agency, and that they can verify that for their users if their users ask what RootsWeb is. ### Several folks asked about RootsWeb's finances. I'll give information on our expenses and income below, but the first thing I'd like to address is what we'd do if we ever turned a "profit" beyond what it costs to buy hardware and bandwidth. We'd use the profits to buy datasets and bring them online. The Social Security Death Index is a famous government dataset that we could buy for a few thousand dollars, but there's a lot more datasets out there. Many jurisdiction have vitals, property records, court records, voter records, and all sorts of other material on electronic media and available to the public at cost. Some cemeteries now have their records computerized. RootsWeb would like to make those datasets freely accessible over the Web. We'd also use the profits to support record transcription projects. We'd like to buy a microfilm scanner, start scanning microfilms as fast as we can, and uploading the images to The Net. We'd also like to hack some simple data entry tools, so a community-minded genealogist could download the tool and a set of images and data- entry the records in their own home completely at their own convenience and then upload the transcriptions for everyone on The Net to use. Done right and with community participation, I think we could bring the equivalent of Salt Lake's holdings online within a reasonable number of years. ### Now about RootsWeb's finances to date. Last year's major hardware expenses are pretty easy to understand: Main servers (4 @ $7,000 each) $28,000 Various and sundry smaller servers $ 8,000 Network routers, hubs, and cabling $ 3,000 Uninterruptible power supplies, batteries, ... $ 3,000 We also have substantial bits-and-pieces costs above these. We also have substantial bandwidth costs. T1 pipes in California cost about $2,000 to $2,600 per month, though at this point RootsWeb gets a substantial discount because of some special circumstances. Our bandwidth costs will be rising toward market levels in the next year. Finally, we also have all the usual small organization costs: government fees, bookkeeping, supplies, you name it. And as an additional pain, we have substantial tax liabilities because we are a hardware-intensive operation and we have to depreciate our hardware costs across 5 years. Anyway, the bottom line is that our expenses for last year were above $60,000. RootsWeb now has around 1,600 Members/Sponsors, and our total income has been somewhat less than $40,000 (our median donation is around $20, and we have a few large donors who have helped pull the total upwards). The $20,000+ difference between expenses and income has come out of Karen and Brian's pockets. [ Not included, as either expense or income, is a server Apple Corp. is providing to help support the eWorld mailing lists. Also not included as an expense is the large chunk of consulting income that I've foregone to have time to support RootsWeb. ] ### Hope that information helps everyone understand how RootsWeb operates, what are goals are, and that listowners are welcome (but not required!) to help us pursue those goals. Cheers, B. -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 [email protected]

I am sending this to all of 'my' lists and apologize if you receive more than one copy. Also, this message will not be repeated. If you have any questions, please reply to me personally at [email protected] I was recently asked for the address to send a donation to for sponsorship of the RootsWeb project: RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their home page is at: http://www.rootsweb.com/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< The suggestion has been made that we all donate $12.00 per year which certainly is a bargain to most of us. Let me reinforce the point that this is not a scam, they are real people giving a real service to the internet genealogical community and deserve our support. I also feel they will still be here in a year and not have run off to Brazil with all of our hard earned dollars..... :^) If you do send a donation, please list the surnames of the lists you belong to. Thank you all for your participation and support. Now, let's find some new cousins....... Joyce

Dear Cousins, If you enjoy receiving any or all of the surname lists, please consider becoming a sponsor. The costs are prohibitive and donations are needed if we are to continue on this or any of the RootsWeb lists. Thanks! Joyce (and yes, I have already sent my contribution......) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The SURNAMES lists are sponsored by the RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative. RootsWeb is funded *entirely* by you, the genealogical community -- to find out how you can help support Internet genealogy through RootsWeb, see this page: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< This is a bit snipped from a recent message received on one of the lists with the reply from Dr. Brian Leverich: >> I am wondering who or what institution supports ROOTSWEB? >> Are they attached to a university? It obviously is a huge venture >> that someone is underwriting currently. I assume any donation we >> would make would be on top of the commitment of the main sponsoring >> org. >RootsWeb has *no* "main sponsoring org". No university, no >government agency, no gensoc, no business, nobody but *you*. > >We are *entirely* supported by voluntary contributions. > >Our hardware and bandwidth budget for the last year was in the >neighborhood of $60,000, of which about two-thirds were individual >contributions and the rest came out of Karen and Brian's pockets. >Apple Computer also donated a server to RootsWeb, which augments the >other 4 main servers we've bought. > >Karen and I have also donated our time as system administrators, as >did the other RootsWeb folks. > >Next year's costs will be well over $100,000 and possibly as high as >$200,000, depending on whether we have the resources to start buying >datasets and uploading them for everyone to freely use. >RootsWeb wouldn't have happened without the support of the Internet >genealogical community, and we need continued support if we're going >to keep expanding the services that are available to the community. > >Thanks to everyone who is helping us make this happen! -B

any one who is willing to send any info. about the Kirkpatricks from Cabool , Missouri it will be greatly appreciated as this is my family and I want to know them . send by e-mail to [email protected] or snail mail Herbert E. Kirkpatrick , Jr.

wish I could help. We might possibly be cousins. However, my line begins in NY with death of father James Kirkpatrick, in Haverstraw, in 1842. He supposedly had 10 children. Only names I could locate in legal papers at James death wereElizabeth, Hiram, Mary, Gilbert, Marquis b abt 1818, James Henry b abt 1817and William Washington b abt 1822 in Newburgh, NY area. Possibly your Joseph is a brother who had left area before James died.Good luck in hunting! Marguerite Holmes > Hi Maggie, > > I have forwarded your message on to the Kirkpatrick surname discussion > > list, might pick up a few people who weren't on your original mailing. > > You might want to subscribe to the group also: > > send a message to: [email protected] > > with just the word: > > SUBSCRIBE > > in the body of the message, nothing else. > > Hope you will join us and find your branch! > > Joyce

Kirkpatrick Cousins I am trying to trace my Kirkpatrick ancestors and though I have been able to trace them back to the early 1800's I have not been able to tie them into either of the two Kirkpatrick genealogies available through the Mormon Family History Center: "Kirkpatrick Family Genealogy" compiled by John J. Shawver and "The Samuel Kirkpatrick Family" by Albert R. Kirkpatrick. Because of similarities in given names I feel that I should find a link to the former family group. Can one of you cousins help? 01 Joseph Kirkpatrick b 1814? in OH m. Elizabeth b 1820? Moved to Rock Island IL prior to 1850 census 0101 Elizabeth b 1837 0102 William J. b 1842? 0103 Isaac W. b 1843? 0104 Sarah A. b 1845 0105 Mary C. b 1846? 0103 Isaac W. Kirkpatrick b 1843? in IL; m Sophia ? b 1847 in IL moved to Peoria IL prior to 1880 census 010301 William J. b Jul 1869 in Rock Island IL 010302 Mary b 1872 in IL 010303 Annie b 1876 in IL 010304 Bessie b Mar 1880 in IL 010301 William J. Kirkpatrick b Jul 1869 in Rock Island IL; m(1)in 1894 to Ella F. Wagner b Jan 1874 in Astoria, Fulton Co., IL and m(2) Minnie ? b 1876 01030101 Ralph Edward Kirkpatrick b 18 Feb 1896 in Sterling, Whiteside Co IL; d 30 Apr 1858 Santa Cruz CA; m Eva Blanche Celeste Murphy b 16 Sep 1898 in Eureka CA; d 11 Jun 1950 San Francisco, CA. 01030101 Virginia Grace Kirkpatrick b 2 May 1919 SanFrancisco; My mother 01030102 Raymond W b 1908 in CA 01030103 Catherine R b 1909 in CA Thank you Robert Bass ********************************************** Dr. Robert W. Bass [email protected] Techxperts, Inc Engineering and Technical Specialists Tolland, CT **********************************************

Hi Everyone, I know I've written to some of you individually, but I wanted everyone to check out how our small Kirkpatrick Gathering of 97 went. There's pictures and everything, so check it out at my cousin's homepage OK. http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~basykes/homepage.html You can also get to my homepage through her page, just click on my name and you can find out all about our Kirkpatrick history. Let me know what you think OK! Sincerely, [email protected]

> >Would anyone know where the following sources can be obtained? Would anyone have access to the books mentioned who could send me photocopies of the information? Douglas' Peerage of Scotland (published 1813), volume 2, page 506 >shows that Margaret was the daughter of Thomas de Somerville, 1st >Lord Somerville by his wife Janet, daughter of Sir Alexander Stewart >of Derneley. Judging by the events described in the article, >Margaret was probably born in the early 1400's and was married >firstly to Sir Roger Kirkpatrick of Closeburn and secondly to Sir >Thomas Kerr of Fernihirst. > >Thomas de Somerville is shown as having been the eleventh in >succession to Sir Gualter de Somerville of Whichnour in Staffordshire >and Somerville Aston in Gloucestershire. Sir Gualter is said to >have accompanied William the Conquerer from France to England in >1066. I have several other books which make similar statements as >to the known origins of the de Somerville family, but none take it >any further back. > >Nisbet's Heraldry, published in 1722, volume 1, page 146, describes >the family of Kirkpatrick of Closburn (anciently Kilosburn). Nisbet >says that John Kirkpatrick obtained a charter of confirmation of the >lands of Kilosburn, which belonged formerly to his ancestors, from >King Alexander the second of Scotland. John's gt-gt-grandson was >Roger Kirkpatrick, who married Margaret de Somerville. There is a >full description of this Kirkpatrick family in most editions >of Burke's Peerage. > >"American Kirkpatrick Family" and an unpublished pamphlet entitled "The Kirkpatrick's" written by Captain Day Jewell, U.S.A. (Ret.) and now desceased. > >Much of this information came from "American Kirkpatrick Family 1754-1972" privately published by: D.M. Kirkpatrick, Houston, Texas August, 1972 > > >Thanks, > >Linda > Linda Mondy 15395 Slab Springs Dr. Licking, Missouri 65542 U.S.A. 573-674-3798

Would anyone know where the following sources can be obtained? "American Kirkpatrick Family" and an unpublished pamphlet entitled "The Kirkpatrick's" written by Captain Day Jewell, U.S.A. (Ret.) and now desceased. Much of this information came from "American Kirkpatrick Family 1754-1972" privately published by: D.M. Kirkpatrick, Houston, Texas August, 1972 Also, does anyone know the address of the South Carolina Archives? Thanks, Linda Linda Mondy 15395 Slab Springs Dr. Licking, Missouri 65542 U.S.A. 573-674-3798

I've been working on this line all afternoon. I just got the article on the Kirkpatrick's this weekend, so it got me going again. I went through the WFT Vol.'s 1 to 7 and found some information that helped me tie this line into yours. Here's how I think it goes so far: 1. George Kirkpatrick 2. Alexander Kirkpatrick & Elizabeth 3. James Kirkpatrick & Mary 4. Francis Kirkpatrick 5. Samuel Kirkpatrick & Jane "Jean" Steele 6. Judge James Kirkpatrick, Sr. & Mary Kennell 7. James Kirkpatrick, Jr. & Sarah Jane "Nancy" Abernathy 8. Luella Maud Kirkpatrick & Joseph B. Layton 9. Ules Layton & Vada Guinn 10. Doris Layton & Jay Mondy 11. Kerry Mondy & Linda Vestal The Kirkpatrick line is really my husband's line. My mother-in-law would like to learn more about her "roots", so I'm trying to find out as much as possible about the Kirkpatrick's. On another WFT CD, I found information about another George Kirkpatrick. There were some similiar facts, so it may be the same person. Here's the line: 1. Roger Kirkpatrick & Margaret De Somerville 2. Alexander Kirkpatrick 3. William Kirkpatrick 4. Alexander Kirkpatrick 5. William Kirkpatrick 6. William Kirkpatrick 7. George Kirkpatrick This George had children: Hugh, Alexander, Andrew, James, Jacob, Thomas, Sarah, & Isabel. Do you think it might be the same George? I've contacted the WFT submitter's list and was told the names & addresses of the people who submitted these trees will be E-mailed to me within a couple of days. I'm planning on contacting them to learn more. Any information you could send on this family line will be greatly appreciated. I'm especially interested in sources as I'd like to documented as much information as I can from actually resources. Thanks for your help! Linda Linda Mondy 15395 Slab Springs Dr. Licking, Missouri 65542 U.S.A. 573-674-3798

I am finding the Kirkpatrick thread at Roots-L interesting as that is one of the lines in which I am very interested. While looking through my notes, I noticed I had previously taken down the following. Hope others find this helpful. According to tradition several siblings (parents and grandparents of people listed below) immigrated to America. Each line seems to have its own story, but few appear to have much proof. I would be interested in learning of any other connections to the following people as well as other Kirkpatricks who were in America at this time. Kirkpatrick Officers in Continental Army: NC-- Alexander Kirkpatrick, Hillsborough Dist, Orange Co Hugh, Sailsbury Dist, Guilford Co John , Sailsbury Dist, Mecklenburg Co William K, Fayette Dist, Cumberland Co Valentine , Sailsbury Dist, Mecklenburg Co SC-- Elizar, Camden Dist, York Francis, Camden Dist, Chester James, Georgetown Dist, Frederick Parish, Robert , Georgetopwn Dist, Lancaster Co, William Witherspoon, Georgetown Dist, Frederick Parish, husb of Jennet Kirkpatrick

I have discovered new information about my Kirpatrick line. If anyone has more information or can tie into this line, I'd like to hear from them. I'm quoting from a newspaper article published in by Cletis R. Ellinghouse, editor of the Puxico Press: Kime's most prominent citizen for many years was arguably Wayne County Court Judge James Kirpatrick Sr. (1804-1867), a native of South Carolina who arrived in the neighborhood from Tennessee in 1831 with his family, which included his father, Samuel Kirkpatrick. Mr. Kirkpatrick's discoveries at Kime were obviously favorable, for he was joined in Wayne County six years later by his brother Francis Kirkpatrick. But after the de3ath of his wife, Francis Kirpatrick moved to Scott County along with his father. Not long thereafter the father, grandson of an immigrant from Ireland, made the long journey from Scott County to visit his son in Wayne County and died there. Despite the sadness associated with the deaths among family members, Mr. Kirkpatrick's early years at Kime were filled with achievement and emolument. The record is sufficient to instill the certainty he was possessed of a keen interest in his government and the developing enterprises that abounded across the wooded hills and valleys he came to love. A Justice of the Peace as early as 1837, sheriff and collector some time later, a member of the administrative county court for three terms, his record would nevertheless be incomplete without a reference to the good workds carried on by his family at Oak Grove Baptist Church after his death at Kime. His wife and the mother of his children was South Carolina native Mary (Kennell) Kirkpatrick (1802-1871), whose name is the first to appear on a roster of members in the church record. The names of descendants and kinsmen of James and Mary Kirpatrick found on the membership listings of Oak Grove Baptist Church for the years 1870-1888 offter compelling evidence of the family's Wayne County heritage. Andrew J. Kirkpatrick, a son who served as the church sexton, on several committees and helped to build the Oak Grove church house in 1884 and 1885. Sarah E. Kirkpatrick, the wife of Andrew J. Kirkpatrick. Franklin "Frank" Kirkpatrick, a grandson who was baptized in 1873, served on many committees, was a deacon, helped build the church sanctuary, and expressed great concern about members signing a dram shop petition. He was probably the son of andrew J. Kirpatrick from a previous marriage but documentation is missing. Eliza Kirkpatrick, the wife of Frank Kirkpatrick. Charles L. Kirkpatrick, a grandson. Elected a deacon in 1885, the name appears in 1884 and 1885 only. He was a son of Andrew J. Kirkpatrick. James F. Kirpatrick, a grandson. He was a son of andrew J. Kirkpatrick and donated labor to build the new church house. Zerilda (Kirkpatrick)(Sandlin) Butler, a daughter. After the death of her first husband, Hardy Sandlin, she was remarried to George Washington Hampton Butler. Mary (Kirkpatrick) Davis, a daughter whose husband was Francis M. Davis, a verteran of Union Army service. Her father-in-law, William Armstrong Davis, was the first postmaster at Lost Creek in 1875. Wallis Kirkpatrick, a son who was a Union Army soldier, the long time church clerk, and the leader in the struggle to erect the new Oak Grove sanctuary. Missouri Ann (Barnhart) Kirkpatrick, the first wife of Wallis Kirkpatrick and a daughter of Henry B. Barnhart. Eleanor Ann "Nellie" (McGee) (Cowan) Kirkpatrick, the second wife of Wallis Kirkpatrick, the church treasurer, and a daughter of Thomas Jefferson McGee, the first of the McGees for whom McGee was named. Viola F. (Kirkpatrick) Yates, a granddaughter and the wife of Jim Yates. Her father was Wallis Kirkpatrick. Minerva (Kirkpatrick) Hoppas, a daughter and wife of the Rev. Z. Alexander Hoppas, one of the pastors of Oak Grove. James Kirpatrick Jr., a son. He was a church deacon, association messenger, moderator at times, one of the leaders in the church. Sarah Jane Kirkpatrick, the wife of james Kirpatrick Jr. Mary (Cattron) Morgan, a granddaughter who spent the remaining years of her childhood in the home of her grandparents at Kime after the death during the Civil War of her parents, Socrates and Musedorum (Kirkpatrick) Cattron. She and her husband later moved into the log home of the Cattrons on Otter Creek. It was her place of birth and where she spent the rest of her days. She, her father and Grandfather Jacob Cattron all died there. Charles Morgan, the husband of mary (Cattron) Morgan, a church deacon and association messenger who was called upon many times to take on leadership responsibilities. James A. Kirkpatrick, a grandson whose death is recorded Aug. 26, 1873. His father, Samuel Kirpatrick, was a Union Army sergeant. Mollie Kirkpatrick, a granddaughter whose father was Samuel Kirkpatrick. Others in the family were surely members in the years after 1888. ("Kirkpatrick Family was Prominent in Kime Community" by Cletis R. Ellinghouse, Editor, Puxico Press. Based on the papers of Rev. H. Y. Mabrey) *Kime, Missouri. Linda Mondy 15395 Slab Springs Dr. Licking, Missouri 65542 U.S.A. 573-674-3798