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    1. [KINCAID] Fwd: Re: [R1b-U106] Our parent clade goes over 10,000 subclades
    2. We think some of you will be interested in the below email which for info for Group A and Group C and perhaps other Kincaid groups. Don W Kincaid kit 1427 On Tuesday, December 10, 2019, 11:34:33 AM CST, Charles Moore, Admin for U106 dna group, via Groups.Io <[email protected]> wrote: With respect to the FTDNA Y-DNA Tree https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/R , which I think has to be easily the largest Y Tree for those with European ancestry, our parent clade, R-L151, yesterday went over the 10,000 subclades mark. The R-L151 clade (also historically known as R-L11, another SNP defining the same clade, since nobody at FTDNA has tested positive for one, but negative for the other), has also been otherwise defined, and noted over the years when STRs dominated the scene, as the “Atlantic Modal Haplotype”, or less accurately, the “Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype”, which has nothing to do with the Western Atlantic (New York, Charleston, Rio, etal), but rather with the Atlantic coast on Europe’s Western edge. This STR haplotype signature, originally just the first 12 markers, later expanded to 111, is the STR signature most prevalent among persons of European ancestry (and overwhelmingly along the Atlantic coast), and is a representation of the STR signature of Mr L151, and his early descendants Mr P312 and Mr U106. Consequently, whenever we look at STRs, we determine STR mutations against this ancestral STR haplotype. Whatever your own 111 STR haplotype signature is, it is a slight variation of the AMH (aka WAMH) signature, and the differences are the result of STR mutations that have taken place, step-by-step, down your line of descent. The FTDNA Tree as of yesterday (12/9) had a grand total of 23,980 clades, beginning with the currently earliest known human clade A-PR2921. Haplogroup R (R-M207) had 12,046 clades (50.2% of the total, but we have to realize that if we were looking at a Y Tree from a lab in China, with lots of Chinese testers and clades, the answer would be far different). R-L151 had 10,007 clades. Of the 10,007 clades below R-L151, they were divided among the 4 subclades as follows: R-P312, 7,424 clades; R-U106, 2,466 clades; R-S1194, 101 clades; R-A8053, 12 clades. With respect to our 3 times larger brother clade P312, FTDNA testers (not otherwise a representative lot as Iain has explained recently) have selected their ancestral Country of Origin (not necessarily entirely accurately as Iain has also mentioned) as 25.60% Ireland 2.43% Northern Ireland 14.24% Scotland 2.20% Wales 13.99% England 5.89% United Kingdom for a total of 64.35% citing Britain or Ireland as their ancestral homeland, as far back as they know. Other answers include 4.83% France 4.79% Germany 3.17% Spain 1.79% Italy 1.59% Switzerland 1.30% Portugal. As Iain has noted, the P312 family descendants effectively made a huge sweep around the Mediterranean and Atlantic coasts from Italy to Iberia to France, and into the Isles. Whereas, FTDNA’s U106 testers have selected as their Country of Origin, 6.37% Ireland 1.25% Northern Ireland Scotland 8.47% Wales 1.04% England 24.96% United Kingdom 7.67% For a total of 49.76% citing Britain or Ireland as their ancestral homeland, as far back as they know. Other U106 answers include Germany 13.24% Sweden 4.48% Netherlands 3.23% France 2.97% Norway 2.45% Switzerland 1.86% Poland 1.71%. So, we see in U106 a clearly more Northern aspect to the distribution, than what we see in P312. Overall, I think its notable at this time that R-L151 has passed the 10K mark, and its generally helpful to see how the distribution of FTDNA testers shakes out. Already, today (12/10), there are now 10,118 clades in L151, and U106 has gone over the 2,500 mark, with 2,528. These 2,528 U106 clades represent 10.5% of all of the clades on FTDNA’s entire tree (now 24,099). The R1b-U106 Project is almost 12 years old, and business is booming! Charles _._,_._,_ --------------------------------------------- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#799) https://groups.io/g/R1b-U106/message/799 | Reply To Group mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5BR1b-U106%5D%20Our%20parent%20clade%20goes%20over%2010%2C000%20subclades | Reply To Sender mailto:[email protected]?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5BR1b-U106%5D%20Our%20parent%20clade%20goes%20over%2010%2C000%20subclades | Mute This Topic https://groups.io/mt/67981838/2276449 | New Topic https://groups.io/g/R1b-U106/post Your Subscription https://groups.io/g/R1b-U106/editsub/2276449 | Contact Group Owner mailto:[email protected] | Unsubscribe https://groups.io/g/R1b-U106/leave/4703314/1223551083/xyzzy [[email protected]] _._,_._,_

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