Yep, it must be a typo, there are new results for 270925 in group C-2. And FTDNA hasn't sold 970,000 kits. The only seriously SNP-tested person in the group is #16491, he's in the "Scots modal" cluster (L1335+ and L1065+) under haplogroup R1b-L21. So, presumably, is everybody else having some form of the surname and matching haplotypes at high resolution (say, 65/67 or so). It may be of some interest that there have recently been quite a few SNPs described or detected under L1065. Almost all are S-series SNPs; tests are available from BritainsDNA (aka Scotland's, etc.) but not from FTDNA, at the moment. And they also aren't on the ISOGG tree, yet. This group (Kincaid project, C-2) falls somewhere in the blue boxes on the left side of the chart viewable at this url: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17907527/R1b-L21_Tree_Chart.pdf Dick Hulan On Jan 23, 2014, at 3:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New results for 970925 (Sue Liedtke) > 2. Re: New results for 970925 (Joe Kincaid) > 3. Re: New results for 970925 (Alice Gedge) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:51:40 -0800 > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > Subject: [KINCAID] New results for 970925 > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D9F51D81B26B4B13BE205277AA6F604D@Susan> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > > Results are starting to be returned for #970925's upgrade. He matches the > C-2 Apparent Ancestral Values at markers 38-47. > > He believes descent from William of York Co. PA 1779-1843. > > Sue Liedtke > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:10:27 -0600 > From: Joe Kincaid <Jkincaid@smbtrials.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] New results for 970925 > To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <9ECEBC05C3B1B649AB228EC7982B5E6E1841420C78@SMB-XDS-01.smbtrials.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Is this 270925? > > Joseph P. Kincaid > SWANSON, MARTIN & BELL, LLP > 330 N. Wabash, Suite 3300 > Chicago, IL? 60611 > Direct Line? 312/321-8442 > Fax - 312/321-0990 > > ? > > Disclaimer: > This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee.? If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by electronic mail, and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof.? Thank you. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Liedtke > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:52 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] New results for 970925 > > > Results are starting to be returned for #970925's upgrade. He matches the > C-2 Apparent Ancestral Values at markers 38-47. > > He believes descent from William of York Co. PA 1779-1843. > > Sue Liedtke > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:40:50 -0700 > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@centurylink.net> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] New results for 970925 > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <2768D92C3EB249C488D7379ED56FAB65@OwnerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Sue, > > I don't see him anywhere on the chart. You say he has an upgrade. Can you > tell us anything about him? > > Thank you, > Alice Gedge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Liedtke > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:51 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] New results for 970925 > > > Results are starting to be returned for #970925's upgrade. He matches the > C-2 Apparent Ancestral Values at markers 38-47. > > He believes descent from William of York Co. PA 1779-1843. > > Sue Liedtke > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 13 > **************************************