My Big Y dna results are in. Family Tree DNA tested 36567 entries, then filtered them down to 648 entries which are relevant to me. Of the 648 entries, 75 are novel variants specific to me. As other Big Y participants show one or more of these 75 variants, they will be shifted to the known SNP column. At present they do not show who you might be closely related to like in the other dna tests and it will take a keen mind to do comparisons with other participants. I have asked Peter to review my results and make comments. If any other deep thinker wants to have access to my Big Y results to analyze, send me an email off list to donwkincaid@cox.net and I will send you my password. The biggest result I have seen in a few minutes looking is that my deep Haplogroup is definitely R – L48 which is a derivative of SNP U106 . If anyone wants to know my result for any specific SNP, let me know and I will look it up. I will not be able to download all the results into a spreadsheet until early March according to FTDNA however the find feature is active now. Don W Kincaid # 1427

Hi Don, This is all very exciting. As we would expect the SNPs take us back before we had surnames to other people who test the same way: have a common ancestor that branches off at the same point. For the Kincaid group, this means that in addition to working from the present backward in time via genealogy and DNA testing, we can now jump back further in time and try to track our particular group forward in time to see how they ever got to Scotland and perhaps Campsie Parish. With my own SNP branches, the only way I could find out anything is to google the last known SNP point and see what others say about it. When I googled r 148, frisian comes up immediately. This origin had already been identified by Peter as associated with the R-U106. Only the R-148 takes us closer in time and narrows down the other living matches who share the 148 SNP. This applies to the Group A Kincaid's in general, I assume, but as you suggest we need to wait to here what Peter says about it. Apparently, the Sinclair's are also on the same line and can be traced from the Frisian location over to Scotland at some point, which is what I'm really hoping we can do. Here's what this particular site says about it. Larry (Don) Kincaid, Group C-2 (with SNP's that trace back to the early Picts living in Scotland in the area north of Glasgow (according to speculation on the web). r l48 frisian http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/frisians.html The Frisian people live in coastal areas near the North Sea in Europe. Originally part of an independent nation of Frisia, part of the land was overcome by the sea and the Frisians later fell under the rule of foreign peoples. Today there are West/Westlauwers Frisians (in Fryslân in the Netherlands), North Frisians (in Nordfriesland in Germany, which was part of Denmark until 1864), Saterland Frisians (in Saterland in Germany), and East Frisians (in Lower Saxony in Germany) who speak distinctive languages and dialects. Some Frisians adopted the languages of their neighbors and intermarried with them while others have preserved their language and traditions. . . . Genetically, *R1b* haplogroups are very commonly found in the Y chromosomes of Frisian males just as in the males of other ethnic groups in this geographic region (Atlantic-bordering Europe). The "Frisian Modal Haplotype" (FMH), called R1b-8, was discovered by Kenneth Nordtvedt and is tested by looking at only 6 markers. Below R1b-8 on the genetic tree is R-U106, and a level below R-U106 on the tree are subclades including R-L47, R-L48, R-L48x, and R-L148. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Don W Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> wrote: > My Big Y dna results are in. Family Tree DNA tested 36567 entries, then > filtered them down to 648 entries which are relevant to me. Of the 648 > entries, 75 are novel variants specific to me. As other Big Y participants > show one or more of these 75 variants, they will be shifted to the known > SNP column. > > At present they do not show who you might be closely related to like in > the other dna tests and it will take a keen mind to do comparisons with > other participants. I have asked Peter to review my results and make > comments. If any other deep thinker wants to have access to my Big Y > results to analyze, send me an email off list to donwkincaid@cox.net and > I will send you my password. > > The biggest result I have seen in a few minutes looking is that my deep > Haplogroup is definitely R - L48 which is a derivative of SNP U106 . > > If anyone wants to know my result for any specific SNP, let me know and I > will look it up. I will not be able to download all the results into a > spreadsheet until early March according to FTDNA however the find feature > is active now. > > Don W Kincaid # 1427 > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- dddddddd