It is great that you replied and we know more about children of William/Sarah. It has been debated on whether Sarah's maiden name was Cain or Stewart. Do you possibly have a death certificate for your George, which might gives his mother's name? Here is a find-a-grave website for your Arthur. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=51774285 Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Nitasaka Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:10 PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 89 Barbara & Rolin, I believe the George Kincade to whom you refer was my 2nd great grandfather, George Washington Kinkade. He was born in Grayson, KY, fought for the Union and is buried where he lived for most of his adult life, in Sedan, Kansas (the Greenwood Cemetery). Most of his children ended up in California. I am happy to share more, if this seems a likely fit to your post. Some years back, 2007?, there was a discussion on this list pertaining to a collection of letters (referred to as the "Hulme Kinkade letter collection"), some written by/about my family members (e.g., Arthur Kinkade, son of George Washington Kinkade & Ellen Sterling). I requested copies of items pertaining to George, Arthur, and Ellen (actually Nancy Ellen Sterling), but never heard back. I don't recall who ended up the holder of the letters, but the contents might well be helpful to you. I still wish copies of that correspondence had been made more widely available. Deborah Collins Nitasaka On 5/5/14, 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. W. S. Kinkade/Sarah of Hardin>Grayson County, KY > (Barbara Van Hout) > 2. Kincaid of Coates estate (Peter Kincaid) > 3. Re: Kincaid of Coates estate (James R. Brisbin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 14:12:57 -0400 > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> > Subject: [KINCAID] W. S. Kinkade/Sarah of Hardin>Grayson County, KY > To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com>, "Jean Sadler" <jeancsadler@me.com>, > "Jessie Hagan" <jessie-h@insightbb.com> > Message-ID: <C6B18D1BB33944C0B1417DE146A05FCB@INSPIRON560> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Here are records which show that the William Kinkade/wives Harriett and > Sarah of Hardin, Logan, and Grayson Counties in Kentucky, was the son of > Robert Kinkade/Mary Bowman of Hardin County, KY. > Several have asked about this William/Sarah Kinkade family. There are > websites which indicate that this William was the son of Guy Kinkead/Lovey > Dictum, but this is not correct. > > William Kinkade?s first wife was Harriett Kermickle, daughter of Peter > Kermickle and Maria/Mary Lucas. William/Harriett were married on Sept. > 19, 1811 by Rev. Warren Cash. Zachariah Bunch, William?s brother-in-law > and husband of Isabella Kinkade, was his security. His father did not > give permission, indicating that William was a. 21 by the date of this > marriage. > > Harriett?s sister Mary/Polly Kermickle was married to William Rager in > Hardin County, and William Rager was named in Peter Kermickle?s 1808 > Hardin County will. William/Polly Rager moved to Logan County, KY and > William Rager died there in 1826. This will is online at familysearch.com, > Logan County, KY wills. William Kinkade/Harriet may have moved to Logan > County, KY also because of the relationship to the Rager family. > > This death record for W M S Kinkade confirms the Logan County, KY > connection. > >From Kentucky death records, online at > >http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=1222, > W M S Kinkade, a. 37 Farmer, resided at time of death in Hardin County. > Born Logan County. Parents: Wm S. and Harriett Kinkade > Died Oct. 10, 1855 of Fever > > This William S. Kinkade, Jr. married Mary Margaret Upton in October of > 1845 in Hardin County by Rev. Silas Lee. My ancestors Arthur M. Kinkade > (brother of William, Sr.)/Emily Jamison were also married Rev. Silas Lee, > in 1838 in Hart County. William/Mary Margaret?s family line was given by > Helen Marvel in 2007: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/kincaid/2011-10/1318365235 > > William S. Kinkade, (Sr.) was on the Logan County, KY tax lists from > 1818-1824. > > In Hardin County, KY William Kingkaid is shown on the tax lists for 1815, > 1816, 1817,1828, 1829, & 1830. > There are no tax records for Hardin County in 1831, 1832, 1835, 1836, > 1838, 1839, and 1840. > In 1833 & 1834, William S Kinkade was taxed for 197 acres on the Sandy > River. This is the land that had belonged to his father Robert, and which > William bought with a one year mortgage from his brother James in 1830. > James was perhaps acting for his parents, Robert & Mary. Robert Kinkade, > Sr. died in January of 1832, and Mary was living with her son James in the > 1840 census. Mary died in 1844 in Hardin County. > > The 1837 tax list shows both William Kinkade Jr. & Sr. The 1841 & 1842 > lists show a William Kinkade, Jr. and William S. Kinkade. > William Kinkade, second wife Sarah, were on the 1830 and 1840 Hardin > County, KY censuses. There was an older male in their 1840 household, who > may have been Sarah?s father? Sarah and her children were then on the > 1850-1880 Grayson County censuses. She was of an age, b. 1801 according > to cemetery records, that matches William?s wife in the 1830 and 1840 > censuses. Several Grayson County birth and death records indicate that > the children were born in Hardin County. > > > Fletcher, James and Sarah Kinkade. Surety James Kinkade Man > of age Robert Kinkade, girl's father and Mary Kinkade gave > written consent, witnesses William S. Kinkade and James > Kinkade 11 Oct 1829 C. Stuteville > > Sources: > Hardin Co, KY Marriages > FHL call no. : > 976.9845 v28 > vols 1 & 2 > > Information about Rev. C. Stuteville, who married Sarah Kinkade and James > Fletcher in 1829: > > REV-WAR Records for John Fulkerson Pension Papers, Grayson Co., KY > > ?We Charles Stuteville Clergyman residing in Grayson County and Charles > Wortham residing in the same herby certify that we are well acquantied > with John Fulkerson who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration > that we beleive him to be seventy seven years of age and that he is > reputed and beleived in the neiborhood where he resides to have been a > soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opion Sworn and > Subscribed the day and year aforesaid Char. H. Stuteville (their Charles > Wortham signatures) > I Jack Thomas Clerk of the court of Grayson County in the state of > Kentucky do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original > proceeding of the said court in the matter of the application of John > Fulkerson for pension.In Testimony where of I have hereon to st my hand > and affixed the seal of the Court of the County of Grayson aforsaid this > 27th day of August one thousand eight hunderd and thirty two at > Leitchfield ? John Thomas (his signature) > > http://files.usgwarchives.net/ky/grayson/military/revwar/f426003.txt > > > ************************* > Mt. Moriah Cemetery, in Horntown Community, Grayson County, KY > Sarah H. Kinkade b. 1-30-1801 d. 2-2-1885 > w/o W.S. Kinkade > > Petty Cemetery at Big Clifty, Grayson County, KY > Samuel Kinkade, b. 8-28-1824 d, 4-5-1892 > Husband of Minerva Brunk > > *************************** > > Barbara, > > ?Thanks for your info. A.P. Kinkade is my great-greatgrandfather. His > father was William S. Kinkade, who married Sarah H. Stewart. A.P. Kinkade > had a brother, G.W. Kinkade, and I suspect the George Kincade that you > mentioned is A.P.Kinkade's brother. I am interested in what became of > George Kincade. > > Their brother, James C. (Clay) Kinkade ended up in California, and their > other brother, Legion William Kinkade died in New Mexico during a miners' > strike when the owners forced the striking miners into boxcars and left > them stranded in the heat. Over one hundred miners suffocated. One of my > great-aunts, Sadie Kinkade, went to New Mexico to accept the remains of > Legion and she must have found in his belongings an indication that our > ancestor was Robert and Mary Kinkade, because she wrote the government and > requested info regarding Robert Kinkade shortly after Legion's death. I > don't know what happened to Sadie or to Legion's belongings nor do I know > what became of James in California or what happened to George of Labette. > ? > > Rolin (Richard Olin Kinkade) > > Richard also wrote me that he had a copy of a paper signed by William > Kinkade in 1845 in Grayson County. He said that the handwriting was very > shaky...perhaps William was sick and weak. > > Grayson County had a courthouse fire in 1864 resulting in the loss of most > records. > > ****************** > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 00:10:46 -0300 > From: "Peter Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> > Subject: [KINCAID] Kincaid of Coates estate > To: <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <EAB86BBA1F4F4E0FAD53D047EA0B59E8@BonniePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am trying to help out our travellers to Edinburgh this month by > showing the location of Kincaid landmarks there. I won't be > able to touch on everything but I want to at least touch on the > main estates. Today I uploaded a shorter video on the Coates > estate. It is at: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwmfELESLfg&feature=player_detailpage > > There is so much more to talk about relating to this property and > the family that held it. I will add more in time. > > I hope to add a brief video on the Warriston estate this week. > > Best wishes! > > Peter > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 23:46:49 -0400 > From: "James R. Brisbin" <jrbrisbin@cabletv.on.ca> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaid of Coates estate > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000f01cf6814$a582a170$f087e450$@cabletv.on.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Fascinating, Peter. Thank you for your research and sharing. I will be in > Edinburgh this summer and will make a point of visiting the Coates Estate > neighbourhood. > In kinship; James > > -----Original Message----- > From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Peter Kincaid > Sent: May-04-14 11:11 PM > To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Kincaid of Coates estate > > I am trying to help out our travellers to Edinburgh this month by showing > the location of Kincaid landmarks there. I won't be able to touch on > everything but I want to at least touch on the main estates. Today I > uploaded a shorter video on the Coates estate. It is at: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwmfELESLfg&feature=player_detailpage > > There is so much more to talk about relating to this property and the > family > that held it. I will add more in time. > > I hope to add a brief video on the Warriston estate this week. > > Best wishes! > > Peter > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to > KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 89 > ************************************** > -- ??? 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