Do you mean the William Kinkead, who married Eleanor guy, and who is buried in Pisgah cemetery in Kentucky. I come from that line, too. There is quite a bit if info on them. She was an Indian Captive in 1764, rescued by the Colinel Boquette Expedition, which included her husband. Great stories! Joyce Joyce Kinkead, Professor Utah State University > On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:27 PM, "Luis Castillo Jr" <jeancsadler@me.com> wrote: > > I am looking for further info on the Rev War Patriot, William Kinkade and his descendants. Spelled first 'Kincaid' then 'Kinkead' and finally 'Kinkade" I know Guy Kinkade and Lovie Dictum are in this line. > My Grandfather was Samuel Kinkade who lived and died in Grayson Co KY. and was married to Minerva Brunk. > I would appreciate any help anyone can give me. > Jean Sadler > Stockton, CA > > > >> On Mar 29, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Kinkead families of Christian County, IL (Barbara Van Hout) >> 2. Re: Kinkead families of Christian County, IL (Courtney Kahler) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:07:57 -0400 >> From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >> Subject: [KINCAID] Kinkead families of Christian County, IL >> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <886E4F71DDBB467C9DAA40D4914B969F@INSPIRON560> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I could not find Guy H. Kinkead and his wife Isabel in the 1870 Federal >> Census for Illinois. Both of them are buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in >> Christian County, IL. But their son Charles Kinkead was living in Christian >> County, IL according to the 1870 census. >> >> HH 34 >> W E Cushing 36 >> Susan Cushing 35 >> Irving Cushing 13 >> Horrace Cushing 12 >> Samuel Cushing 9 >> Chs Kinkade 20 >> Lucy Demott 21 >> >> KINKEAD, RICHARD R CUSHING, LENORA B 1873-04-16 00B 0066 00003221 >> CHRISTIAN, IL >> Charles also went by the name of Richard? >> >> CUSHING, SAMUEL KINKEAD, LENA 1883-03-22 00B 0189 00005599 CHRISTIAN, >> IL >> >> This is the Guy H Kincaid/Isabella family in the 1860 Federal Census for >> Greene County, IL: >> >> G H Kincaid 37 >> Isabella Kincaid 37 >> Charles Kincaid 10 >> Candice Kincaid 1 >> >> But I did find another, older age 67 Guy Kinkead in the 1870 Christian >> County, IL >> census in the household of M L Young and his wife, who was a Kinkead. This >> couple >> was married in 1854, according to IL marriage records. >> >> YOUNG, M L KINKEAD, E L 1854-10-01 00A 0070 00000479 CHRISTIAN >> >> This is what Norman found for this older Guy Kinkead: >> >> 1870 Guy Kinkead, age 67, born KY, white, male, physician, Township 13, >> Range 2, Christian County, IL, p. 29, family 202. >> [In household of M.C. Young, age 44, born KY.] >> >> This Guy Kinkead appears to have been the son of Guy Kinkead, Sr. and Lovie >> Dictum of Christian County, KY. The age works for him to have been their >> son. >> >> In 1860, Guy Kinkead and his son Oliver G Kinkead were living together in >> Trigg County, KY. Oliver's mother was Sarah Ann McReynolds, daughter of >> Oliver McReynolds and Mary Elizabeth Steele, >> according to family search records. Sarah was Guy Kinkead's second wife. >> He was married first to Susan Allen in 1830. >> >> By 1880, the older Guy Kinkead's son Oliver G (Guy) Kinkead had moved to >> Christian County, IL. >> >> Family search records: >> O.G. Kinkead >> marriage: 8 October 1863 Christian, Kentucky >> spouse: Mary V. Wood >> >> >> Christian County IL >> >> 1880 O.G. Kincade, born 1842, in KY, age 38, white, married, farmer, >> father b KY, mother b VA, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL, p. 723B. >> >> 1880 Mary V. Kincade, born born 1842, in KY, age 38, white, married, >> keeps house, father b KY, mother b VA, >> >> wife of O.G. Kincade, Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Maud Kincade, born 1866, in IL, age 14, white, single, daughter of >> O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Mary E. Kincade, born 1868, in IL, age 12, white, single, daughter >> of O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Sarah E. Kincade, born 1870, in IL, age 10, white, single, daughter >> of O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Pearl Kincade, born 1876, in IL, age 4, white, single, daughter of >> O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Olive Kincade, born 1878, in IL, age 2, white, single, daughter of >> O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201880%20Census/kincaids%20in%201880%20united%20states%20census%20ga-il.htm >> >> The 1880 census for Christian County, IL included Isabel >> Kincaid, >> widow and her daughters. The following records are from Norman's 1880 >> census website: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201880%20Census/kincaids%20in%201880%20united%20states%20census%20ga-il.htm >> >> 1880 Isabell Kinkead, born 1830, in IL, age 50, white, widowed, keeps >> house, father b KY, mother b KY, >> >> Assumption, Christian County, IL, p. 467C. >> >> 1880 Candas Kinkead, born 1860, in IL, age 20, white, single, school >> teacher, father b KY, mother b IL, >> >> daughter of Isabell Kinkead, Assumption, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Emma L. Kinkead, born 1862, in IL, age 18, white, single, at home, >> father b KY, mother b IL, >> >> daughter of Isabell Kinkead, Assumption, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Christopher C. Coonrod, born 1839, in IL, age 41, white, widowed, >> grocer, father b KY, mother b KY, >> >> brother of Isabell Kinkead, Assumption, Christian County, IL. >> >> >> Barbara >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barbara Van Hout >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:34 PM >> To: Courtney Kahler ; kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Kincaids of Greene and Pike County, IL >> >> According to find-a-grave.com, the burial location of >> Guy H. Kinkead and his wife Isabel is at the Greenwood Cemetery in >> Christian County, IL. >> >> Kinkead, Guy H 72268429 >> b. 1824 d. 1875 Greenwood Cemetery >> Assumption >> Christian County >> Illinois, USA >> >> Kinkead, Isabel 72268491 >> b. 1830 d. 1904 Greenwood Cemetery >> Assumption >> Christian County >> Illinois, USA >> >> >> Barbara >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Courtney Kahler >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:58 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois >> >> It would be good to learn if this George and Polly had a relation to my >> great great great grandfather Guy. And he did state he was a blacksmith on >> one of the censuses. On another he said he was a merchant. So maybe he >> changed trades at some point. >> >> It was previously suggested there was a relation to a woman named Barbara >> Kincaid. And if she is his mother, then his father most likely died before >> 1850. Below is copied an old archived list email from Randy. >> >> On another note, I'm certain that Martha J "Punsley" as listed in the >> marriage record is actually Martha Jane Pursley. Martha Jane Pursley's >> sister Susan Pursley Cushing had a son named Samuel E Cushing, and he >> married Emma Lena Kinkead who was a daughter of Guy Kinkead (from his 2nd >> marriage with Isabel Lamb). Also Charles Richard Kinkead (son of Guy and >> Martha) married Leonora Bell Cushing who was a cousin to Samuel E Cushing. >> There's a few connections between the Kinkeads, Cushings, and Pursleys in >> that time frame, so they all must have been a close-knit group. >> >> >> Courtney Kahler >> >> www.chainedheartjewelry.com >> >> >> From: Randy Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> >> Sent: 02/04/03 04:36 PM >> To: KINCAID-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Guy Kincaid: Christian Cty, KY >> >>> >>> This is a long shot but the following Illinois KINCAID/KINKEAD family >>> group >> may tie into this. I've kept track of them as they are in the same general >> area at the same time as my Kincaids, but I've never found an indication >> that they were related. To all appearances they are a different line. In >> many records, the following group is spelled KINKEAD; in some records >> KINCAID. >> >> Barbara Kincaid/Kinkead is in Greene Co., Illinois as early as 1834 when >> she purchases 80 acres with the Illinois record dated in March 1834 and a >> federal patent granted in 1835. On the land patent she is noted as "Barbara >> Kincaid of Greene Co., Illinois." >> >> KINCAID BARBARA FD W2SE 15 10N 10W 3 80.00 1.25 >> 100.00 FEMALE 03/12/1834 GREENE 343 136 >> >> >> In the 1850 federal census, Barbara is found in Macoupin County, unknown >> Townships as follows: >> >> Barbara KINKEAD 56 F b. Ohio >> Jackson KINKEAD 21 Farmer M b. Kentucky >> Archie KINKEAD 19 Farmer M b. Kentucky >> Levi KINKEAD 22 Farmer M b. Kentucky >> >> Also in the 1850 federal census can be found Guy H. Kinkead, known to be >> Barbara's son from other records. He is found in Greene County, Macoupin & >> Apple Creek Township. >> >> Guy H. KINKEAD 25 M Blacksmith b. Kentucky >> Martha J. KINKEAD 22 F b. Kentucky >> Richard KINKEAD 1 M b. Illinois >> Mary F. KINKEAD 18 F b. Kentucky (Guy's sister, Barbara's daughter?) >> >> The given name Guy seems to be relegated to only a couple of Kincaid lines >> so this may be a good clue. >> >> Randy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Barbara >> Van Hout) >> >> >> Are then any other known vitals for George that would help establish his >> age? What are the ages of the children in 1840? Can Polly be found in 1850? >> If some of the children were minors in 1844 then it would make sense for >> George to leave her the means of caring for them with the reliance that she >> would distribute the property among the children at her death. Then there >> is always the possibility that the children in the household were not >> George's children. >> >> Kim, it is always helpful to have a DNA participant from the line of an >> early Kincaid with unknown connections. Knowing who he is closely related to >> can help guide further research and expands our knowledge of the several >> Kincaid families. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara >> Van Hout) >> >> >>> I looked at Courtney's ancestor, Guy H. Kincaid, who is in the 1850 Greene >>> County, IL census. His occupation was blacksmith, suggesting a connection >>> to George Kincaid/Polly of Greene County. >>> Guy is shown as age 25, born in Kentucky, and his wife >>> Martha J was a. 22, also born in KY. >>> They had a son Richard, a. 1 born in Illinois, and living with them was >>> Mary >>> F. Kinkead a. 18, born in KY, possibly a sister of Guy. >>> >>> The 1830 and 1840 censuses for Greene County, IL show male and female >>> children in George's family, but his will names only his wife Polly to >>> inherit his land and possessions. If none of their children were included >>> in George's will, would there have been any legal basis for the children >>> to >>> contest the will? >>> >>> All of the children would have been treated equally, i.e. left out of the >>> will. >>> >>> George Kincaid's 1844 will and estate details, two pages, are here: >>> >>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 >>> >>> Who was Jefferson Dixon? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kim Kincaid >>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:57 PM >>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara >>> Van Hout) >>> >>> >>> HI Barbara, >>> >>> I don't remember any blacksmith tools. Items sold to the Johnson's were >>> household items, bed, a stove, etc. I can stop back by, but I did not >>> make >>> copies. A lot of the notes against the estate where for farm items. >>> >>> If timing permits this year, on my trips through the area, I'll stop in >>> Pike, Greene & Adams counties in Illinois and Marion & Lewis counties in >>> Missouri to look for Kincaids. >>> >>> Any help with a research plan for families in the area would be helpful to >>> me. I travel a lot and although my family came from this area, my >>> husband's >>> Kincaid's did not. >>> >>> Would it be helpful for DNA to find a descendant of Russell Kincaid? >>> >>> Kim >>> >>> Message: 1Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:12:47 -0400From: "Barbara Van Hout" >>> <dutchtreat@prodigy.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike >>> County, IllinoisTo: <kincaid@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: >>> <CBB0857DAE93490D8BCB4C06EF7B99DA@INSPIRON560>Content-Type: text/plain; >>> format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=originalKim,Were the >>> blacksmith tools listed and sold, according to Archibald's estate packet?A >>> blacksmith's job was a skilled trade and required years of training and >>> workas an apprentice to become qualified.The Colonial Blacksmith: The Most >>> Important Man in the >>> Villagehttp://voices.yahoo.com/the-colonial-blacksmith-most-important-man-in-24579.htmlBarbara-----Original >>> Message----- From: Kim KincaidSent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:32 PMTo: >>> kincaid@rootsweb.comSubject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, >>> IllinoisRandall,I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and >>> find >>> the probatepacket for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the >>> books! >>> .KimMessage: 3> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)> From: >>> Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald >>> Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:>> >>> <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> Kim, this is good new >>> information. >>> I do need to again correct the> informationin Barbara's original post. In >>> George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinoiswill/probate record Archibald >>> Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. Therecorddoes specifically appoint >>> his >>> "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simplystatesthat the blacksmith tools >>> are >>> bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of PikeCounty,Illinois". It would be wrong >>> to assign Archibald as George's son as it seemslikely that he is not. >>> Where >>> the will specifies the relationship to Polly,it isthe lack of a specified >>> relationship that makes it likely Archibald is notGeorge's son. It could >>> be >>> a nephew, a cousi! >>> n or other relationship or norelationship. The fact is that will does >>> not specify any childrenwhatsoever.>> This family group is likely to be >>> part >>> of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha> Townsleyfamily. >>> >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:17:02 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Courtney Kahler <ckinkead@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkead families of Christian County, IL >> To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <1396045022.95074.YahooMailNeo@web185005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> I've noticed on Ancestry that there are people who mistake this other Guy Kinkead with mine and tie him to the Kinkead/Dictum line.? Definitely not the same person.? Guy H's son Charles Richard was sometimes listed as Richard when he was younger. >> >> >> On another note entirely... Please remember the families and friends of the Oso Landslide victims.? I am one of those people.? If you have seen mention of Christina Jefferds and Sanoah Huestis mentioned... Sanoah was my new baby cousin.? Christina was an ex of my cousin and was still very close with our family.? They were both loved and it is a hard loss.? Sanoah isn't Kinkead ancestry as her family is my mom's side.? But they were part of this Kinkead's family.? The Oso community is very tiny, and my mother and her family lived in Darrington, which is also fairly small.? It is a tight-knit group and this is a huge loss for the community as a whole.? If any of you want to donate for the families of the victims, I recommend giving straight to the community itself.? This site was set up by the Oso Community Chapel. >> >> http://www.osomudsliderelief.org/ >> >> ? >> Courtney Kahler >> >> >> www.chainedheartjewelry.com >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >> To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:07 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Kinkead families of Christian County, IL >> >> >> I could not find Guy H. Kinkead and his wife Isabel in the 1870 Federal >> Census for Illinois. Both of them are buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in >> Christian County, IL.? But their son Charles Kinkead was living in Christian >> County, IL according to the 1870 census. >> >> HH 34 >> W E Cushing 36 >> Susan Cushing 35 >> Irving Cushing 13 >> Horrace Cushing 12 >> Samuel Cushing 9 >> Chs Kinkade 20 >> Lucy Demott 21 >> >> KINKEAD, RICHARD R? CUSHING, LENORA B? 1873-04-16? 00B? 0066? 00003221 >> CHRISTIAN, IL >> Charles also went by the name of Richard? >> >> CUSHING, SAMUEL? KINKEAD, LENA? 1883-03-22? 00B? 0189? 00005599? CHRISTIAN, >> IL >> >> This is the Guy H Kincaid/Isabella family in the 1860 Federal Census for >> Greene County, IL: >> >> G H Kincaid? 37 >> Isabella Kincaid? 37 >> Charles Kincaid? 10 >> Candice Kincaid? 1 >> >> But I did find another, older age 67 Guy Kinkead in the 1870 Christian >> County, IL >> census in? the household of M L Young and his wife, who was a Kinkead.? This >> couple >> was married in 1854, according to IL marriage records. >> >> YOUNG, M L? KINKEAD, E L? 1854-10-01? 00A? 0070? 00000479? CHRISTIAN >> >> This is what Norman found for this older Guy Kinkead: >> >> 1870? ? Guy Kinkead, age 67, born KY, white, male, physician, Township 13, >> Range 2, Christian County, IL, p. 29, family 202. >> [In household of M.C. Young, age 44, born KY.] >> >> This Guy Kinkead appears to have been the son of Guy Kinkead, Sr. and Lovie >> Dictum of Christian County, KY.? The age works for him to have been their >> son. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to >> KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 64 >> ************************************** > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message