Oh here's a question then... So this William was married twice.. Could Polly then be the mother of Guy?  Assuming this is the right grouping anyway that he belongs to.  Because in that 1850 census Guy isn't living with Barbara.  Perhaps she wasn't his mother, just a step-mother. But then that doesn't answer why Archie and Guy state they were born in Christian County KY since both of those William Kincaid marriages were in Bath County.    Courtney Kahler www.chainedheartjewelry.com ________________________________ From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] William Kincaid marriages in Bath Co, KY Also interesting to note the additional use of the name "Thomas." It appears to be, with "Andrew" and "Archibald," a common denominator across the A&A tree. This seems to be contributing to the possibility that Andrew & Archibald's father may have been named Thomas. It would appear that Archibald's son, William Kincaid, followed the order of oldest son, Thomas (with Polly Small), and next son, Archibald (with Barbara Neal). Although the name Guy is used in other Kincaid family groups, not closely related, Barbara's son, Guy, appears to be the first and only use of it in the A&A group. -----Original Message----- >From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >Sent: Mar 12, 2014 7:08 PM >To: Judy Roth <jroth93947@yahoo.com>, kincaid@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KINCAID] William Kincaid marriages in Bath Co, KY > >Here is the will of a Thomas Kincaid in Menard County, IL.  The will is >dated 1853 but executed in Menard County in 1861.  This is the same Thomas >who was living with James and Lucinda >Small in the 1850 Bath County, KY census. > >This Thomas J Kincaid a. 37 was one of two Thomas Kincaids in the 1860 >Menard County, IL  census, living in the household >of  Andrew Kincaid a. 75 b. PA and Ann P Kincaid, a. 72  b. KY. >The other Thomas, also a. 37, b. KY had a wife named Lucinda a. 32 and a son >Lee a. 1. b. IL. >Completing this family was a William Kincaid, a. 15 and born KY. > >Thomas and Lucinda Kincaid were living with Andrew/Ann Kincaid in the 1850 >Menard County, IL census >while the other Thomas, of the will below, was living with James and Lucinda >Small in the 1850 Bath Co, KY. census. > > >Will of Thomas Kincaid > >Record of Wills, Book "A" >Page 8 >Estate of Thomas Kincaid, deceased >I Thomas Kincaid of the County of Bath and State of Kentucky being of sound >mind and disposing memory, and knowing the uncertainty of life, with a view >do dispose of my worldly effects when I shall have no further use for them, >do make and publish this my last will and testament. > >And first I direct that any funeral expenses and all my just debts shall be >paid. > >Second, after that I will and bequeath to my beloved Aunt Lucinda Small all >my estate both real and personal or mixed and appoint her my sole executrix; >and owing but few debts I request that she be permitted to qualify without >being required to give security. Witness my hand this 26th day of April >1853. >Thomas Kincaid > >Witness: >S.P. McNary >Jas. A. Ried > >I do solemnly swear that this writing contains the true last will and >testament of the within named Thomas Kincaid deceased so far as I know or >believe, and that I will well and truly execute the same by paying first the >debts and then the legacies therein mentioned as far as his goods and >chattels will thereunto extend and the law charge me, and that I will make a >true and perfect inventory of all such goods and chattels rights and credits >as may come to my hands or knowledge belonging to the estate of the said >deceased; and render a fair and just account of my executorship when >thereunto required by law; to the best of my knowledge and abilities so help >me God. >I.K. Kincaid > >Subscribed & sworn to before me this 16th day of Decr 1861 >Cornelius Rourke, clerk > >http://www.genealogytrails.com/ill/menard/wills/bookA/kincaid_t.html > > >Barbara > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Judy Roth >Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:16 PM >To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KINCAID] William Kincaid marriages in Bath Co, KY > >William Kincaid and Polly Small 1-10-1815 Bath Co, KY - her father George >Small >William Kincaid and Barbara Neal 1-14-1829 Bath Co, KY > >1820 Bath Co, KY, p174-21: 1 male 0-9, 1 male 18-25, 1 female 0-9, 1 female >16-25 >1830 Bath Co, KY, p225-11,  3 males 0-4, 2 males 5-9, 1 male 30-39, 2 >females 5-9, 1 female 30-39 > >James Small, son of George and brother of Polly, says some of her children >lived with members of the Small family. >He also says his sister Malinda Small married an Anderson Kincaid. Some >Kincaid birth dates are given in the account, but parents are not >identified. >John 1-17-1818, Eliza Jane 6-19-1820, Emily Ann 8-22-182l, Lucretia >11-17-1822, Thomas (no date), William Wesley 9-19-1827 > >Emily Ann may have married Cornelius Lyman 1-2-1838 Sangamon Co, IL, died in >Still water MN 2-10-1878. >Lucretia may be with Mary Ann Kincaid Whitney, daughter of Andrew/Ann in >Menard Co in 1850. >There is a Thomas b12-1824 in James Small's household in 1850 Bath Co. > >For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The land record for Barbara Kincaid in Macoupin County, IL indicates that she inherited, or was given, this land because of the death of her son William Larimore. Records show that William Larimore died in the Mexican War. "Know Ye, That in pursuance of the Act of Congress, entitled "An act to raise for a limited time an additional military force, and for other purposes" approved February 11th, 1847, Barbara Kinkead, mother and heir at law of William Larimore, deceased, late, a private in Captain Lee's Company, Second Regiment Illinois Volunteers, having deposited in the GENERAL LAND OFFICE a WARRANT in her favor, numbered 58.828. There is therefore granted by the United States, unto Benjamin Dorman assignee of said Barbara Kinkead, and to his heirs the East half of the South West quarter , (further description of the location....) containing one hundred and sixty-acres. Dated Dec. 21, 1850. In 1835, Barbara Kinkead bought 80 acres of land in Greene County, IL. Here is a website with the United States Bureau of Land Management records: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Courtney Kahler Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:29 AM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] William Kincaid marriages in Bath Co, KY Oh here's a question then... So this William was married twice.. Could Polly then be the mother of Guy? Assuming this is the right grouping anyway that he belongs to. Because in that 1850 census Guy isn't living with Barbara. Perhaps she wasn't his mother, just a step-mother. But then that doesn't answer why Archie and Guy state they were born in Christian County KY since both of those William Kincaid marriages were in Bath County. Courtney Kahler www.chainedheartjewelry.com ________________________________ From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] William Kincaid marriages in Bath Co, KY Also interesting to note the additional use of the name "Thomas." It appears to be, with "Andrew" and "Archibald," a common denominator across the A&A tree. This seems to be contributing to the possibility that Andrew & Archibald's father may have been named Thomas. It would appear that Archibald's son, William Kincaid, followed the order of oldest son, Thomas (with Polly Small), and next son, Archibald (with Barbara Neal). Although the name Guy is used in other Kincaid family groups, not closely related, Barbara's son, Guy, appears to be the first and only use of it in the A&A group. -----Original Message----- >From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >Sent: Mar 12, 2014 7:08 PM >To: Judy Roth <jroth93947@yahoo.com>, kincaid@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KINCAID] William Kincaid marriages in Bath Co, KY > >Here is the will of a Thomas Kincaid in Menard County, IL. The will is >dated 1853 but executed in Menard County in 1861. This is the same Thomas >who was living with James and Lucinda >Small in the 1850 Bath County, KY census. > >This Thomas J Kincaid a. 37 was one of two Thomas Kincaids in the 1860 >Menard County, IL census, living in the household >of Andrew Kincaid a. 75 b. PA and Ann P Kincaid, a. 72 b. KY. >The other Thomas, also a. 37, b. KY had a wife named Lucinda a. 32 and a >son >Lee a. 1. b. IL. >Completing this family was a William Kincaid, a. 15 and born KY. > >Thomas and Lucinda Kincaid were living with Andrew/Ann Kincaid in the 1850 >Menard County, IL census >while the other Thomas, of the will below, was living with James and >Lucinda >Small in the 1850 Bath Co, KY. census. > > >Will of Thomas Kincaid > >Record of Wills, Book "A" >Page 8 >Estate of Thomas Kincaid, deceased >I Thomas Kincaid of the County of Bath and State of Kentucky being of sound >mind and disposing memory, and knowing the uncertainty of life, with a view >do dispose of my worldly effects when I shall have no further use for them, >do make and publish this my last will and testament. > >And first I direct that any funeral expenses and all my just debts shall be >paid. > >Second, after that I will and bequeath to my beloved Aunt Lucinda Small all >my estate both real and personal or mixed and appoint her my sole >executrix; >and owing but few debts I request that she be permitted to qualify without >being required to give security. Witness my hand this 26th day of April >1853. >Thomas Kincaid > >Witness: >S.P. McNary >Jas. A. Ried > >I do solemnly swear that this writing contains the true last will and >testament of the within named Thomas Kincaid deceased so far as I know or >believe, and that I will well and truly execute the same by paying first >the >debts and then the legacies therein mentioned as far as his goods and >chattels will thereunto extend and the law charge me, and that I will make >a >true and perfect inventory of all such goods and chattels rights and >credits >as may come to my hands or knowledge belonging to the estate of the said >deceased; and render a fair and just account of my executorship when >thereunto required by law; to the best of my knowledge and abilities so >help >me God. >I.K. Kincaid > >Subscribed & sworn to before me this 16th day of Decr 1861 >Cornelius Rourke, clerk > >http://www.genealogytrails.com/ill/menard/wills/bookA/kincaid_t.html > > >Barbara > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Judy Roth >Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:16 PM >To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KINCAID] William Kincaid marriages in Bath Co, KY > >William Kincaid and Polly Small 1-10-1815 Bath Co, KY - her father George >Small >William Kincaid and Barbara Neal 1-14-1829 Bath Co, KY > >1820 Bath Co, KY, p174-21: 1 male 0-9, 1 male 18-25, 1 female 0-9, 1 female >16-25 >1830 Bath Co, KY, p225-11, 3 males 0-4, 2 males 5-9, 1 male 30-39, 2 >females 5-9, 1 female 30-39 > >James Small, son of George and brother of Polly, says some of her children >lived with members of the Small family. >He also says his sister Malinda Small married an Anderson Kincaid. Some >Kincaid birth dates are given in the account, but parents are not >identified. >John 1-17-1818, Eliza Jane 6-19-1820, Emily Ann 8-22-182l, Lucretia >11-17-1822, Thomas (no date), William Wesley 9-19-1827 > >Emily Ann may have married Cornelius Lyman 1-2-1838 Sangamon Co, IL, died >in >Still water MN 2-10-1878. >Lucretia may be with Mary Ann Kincaid Whitney, daughter of Andrew/Ann in >Menard Co in 1850. >There is a Thomas b12-1824 in James Small's household in 1850 Bath Co. > >For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message