Norm You seem to still be doing lots of research and I remember something about you were looking for another job. Is that still the situation? As you probably know, I've never been fully satisfied with the Clingan research linked to my Thomas Kincaid of Anderson County, Tenn.. Secondly, I'm not satisfied that our representative DNA sample has a proven line--sorry Bill, it's not your fault. However, because our sample does fall in nicely with Group C, the same as Alice's line, there seems to be something there worth pursuing. So if you can, keep your eyes peeled for anything in this regard. Bruce