That makes the relationship between Calvin and Mordicai clearer for me. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: "lewisjo@junct.com" <lewisjo@junct.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 12:50:48 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Amended Post - Vetting #129770 to Mathew Kincade >Peter, Norman, Sue: Is this what was needed? > > Robert Riley Kincade #129770 Participant > (Testing in Progress) > Researcher: Kelly Kincade-Lewis, dau of Robert R. Kincade > > Vetting Robert Riley Kincade to Mathew Kincade & Elizabeth Humble > _________________________________________________________________ > Robert Riley Kincade b. Muskogee, OK  7/13/1931 > > Son of: Robert Seth Kincade & Hattie Louise Lay > > Proven by: > 1931 OK Birth Cert. for Robert Riley Kincade naming his parents > as Robert Seth Kincade & Hattie Louise Lay. > > Personal Knowledge: Robert knew his father and was acknowledge by > family as Robert Seth Kincade's son. > __________________________________________________________________ > Robert Seth Kincade b.Ellis Co.OK 4/29/1905 d.Springfield,MO 2/1970 > > Son of: John Albert Kincade and Flora A. Dilley m. 2/18/1891 > > Proven by: > Social Security Death Index Record; stating his date of birth as > 4/29/1905, stating place of birth as OK, and stating place of death > as Springfield, MO Feb 1970. > > US Marine Corp Muster Rolls 1798-1940; Personal records ordered from > the Nat'l Archives stating his date of birth as 4/29/1905, stating his > birth as Arnett, Ellis Co. OK, stating parents as John A. Kincade & Flora > A. Dilley. > > 1910 US Fed Census Records; OK, Harper, Twn of Haskell, family listed as: > J.A.Kincade - head- 39 - m 2  b.MO > Bulah G. Kincade - wife - (stepmom) 20 m 1 b.IA > Ross Kincade - son 10 b.MO > Louise Kincade - dau 7 b.MO > Robert Kincade - son 5 b.OK > Coda Kincade - dau 10/12 b.OK (should be Cleta) > > 1920 US Fed Census Records; MO, Greene, Twn of Springfield Ward 5,family > as: > John A. Kincaid - head 39 b.MO > Beulah Kincaid - wife 30 b.IA > Louise Kincaid -dau 17 b.MO > Robert Kincaid - son 14 b.OK > Cleda Kincaid - dau 10 b. MO > Ivan Kincaid - son 7 4/12 b.OK > Cora Kincaid - dau 1 4/12 b.MO > > Personal knowledge; Robert Seth knew his father and was accepted by family > and friends as John Albert Kincade's son. > __________________________________________________________________________ > John Albert Kincade b.Chillicothe, Livingston Co,MO 7/18/1870 d.1/12/1960 > Springfield,Greene Co., MO > > Son of: Mordecai Kincade & Martha Jane Bailey (Bates) > > Proven by: > Marriage Cert. from Day Co.(now Ellis Co.) OK, dated 12/9/1907, listing > his parents as Mortica Kincade and Martha J. Bates. > > Bias Magazine:Vol 4 -#11, dated 7/21/1953; Personal Biography (Citizen > of the Week Article) of John Albert Kincade, stating his parents as > Mordecai > and Martha Jane Kincade of Chillicothe, MO. As reported by Jim Billings, > Bias Magazine Reporter. > > Personal Knowledge; Robert Riley Kincade & Robert Seth Kincade knew John > Albert Kincade as Robert Seth's father, and Robert Riley's grandfather.. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Mordecai Kincade b.IN abt 1844  d.Chillicothe,MO 1872 > > Son of: Mathew Kincade & Elizabeth Humble > > Proven by: > 1850 US Census, IN, Marion Co, Twn Lawrence, family as listed: > Mathew Kingkale no age b.VA Male > Elizabeth Kingkade 34 b.IN Female (KY?) > Calvin Kingkade 9 b.IN Male > Sally Kingkade 8 b.IN Female > Mordeca Kingkade 5 b.IN Male > Thomas Kingkade 3 b.IN Male > Francis Kingkade 5/12 b.IN Male > > 1856 State of IA Census, Wayne Co, Twn Benton, family as listed: > Mathew Kincade 48 b.VA Male > Elizabeth Kincade 43 b.KY Female > Calvin Kincade 16 b.IN Male > Saras S Kincade 14 b.IN Female > Mordica Kincade 12 b.IN Male > Thomas Kincade 8 b.IN Male > Frances Kincade 4 b.IN Female (should be Male) > Hannah J Kincade 3 b.IN Female > James Kincade 1 b.IN Male > Alexander Terrel 20 b.OH Male > > 1860 US Census, IA, Wayne Co, Twn Benton, family as listed: > Mathew Kincaid 53 Male b.VA > Elizabeth Kincaid 47 Female b.KY > Mordica Kincaid 16 Male b.IN > Thomas Kincaid 12 Male b.IN > Frances Kincaid 13 Male b.IN > Hannah J Kincaid 8 Female b.IN > James Kincaid 5 Male b.IN > Lovina Kincaid 2 Female b..IA > ______________________________________________________________________ > I haven't found a death cert. for Mordecai Kincade, but I did find one > for his brother Calvin, who is listed on the above 1850 Fed & 1856 IA > State census records. His birth is listed as 7/27/1839, place of birth > is listed as Indiana, date of death is 2/1/1928 (88yrs, 6mo, 5 days) in > the city of Trenton, Co. of Grundy, MO. buried in N.Evans Cemetary, > Trenton, Mo on Feb 2 1928.  I found this info on the State of MO's Digital > Heritage Web Site. It is also filed in Grundy County Mo (1928). It lists > his parents as Mathew Kincade b.VA and Elizabeth Humble b.NY. Calvin is > also located on the IA 1860 Fed Census in the same county-Wayne, > twn-Benton and Post Office-Corydon, as the rest of his family, but listed > separately, with his wife: > Calvin Kincaid 20 b.IN > Tlitha Kincaid 18 b.VA > > Also located on the MO Digital Heritage web site, is the service records > for the men of the Civil War, with Mordecai & his brother Calvin listed; > Secretary of State, Missouri Digital Heritage Collection; Missouri > State Archives; Soliders Records: War of 1812-WW 1; Office of Adjutant > General, Box 47, Reel s780: > > Mordecai Kincade- Rank:Private, Conflict:Civil War, Side:Union, > Organization:Enrolled Missouri Militia, Company:C, Commander:Capt ?A > Spickard, Enrolled:July 12,1862 Where:Chillicothe,MO Ordered into active > service:July 12,1862 Relieved from duty:Apr 4,1863 *(152 days)  Ordered > into active service:July 20,1864, Relieved from duty:1864 (27 days), > Number > days actual service:179, Remarks:Prov't EMM left state, Card #611 > > Calvin Kincade- Rank:Private, Conflict:Civil War, Side:Union, > Organization:Enrolled Missouri Militia, Company:C, Commander:Capt ?A > Sprickard, Enrolled:July12,1862, Where:Chillicothe,MO, Ordered into active > service:July 12,1862 Relieved from duty:Apr 4,1863 *(206 days) Ordered > into active service:July 20,1864, Relieved from duty:1864 (10 days), > Number > days actual service:216, Remarks:Prov't EMM left state, Card #610 > > *I noticed that they joined the same date, served the same time, yet > Mordecai was not credited with as many service days as Calvin. Both Calvin > and Mordecai left the Enrolled Missouri Militia to serve with Prov't > Missouri Militia for a battle out of state, then resumed their duties with > the regualar Missouri Militia until 1864. > ________________________________________________________________________ > Mathew Kincade b.VA abt 1807/1808 d. aft 1860 > > Son of: Unknown > I have not found any absolute proof of Mathew's father or mother. > > Leslie McConachie, who has been noted as an organized and reliable Kincaid > researcher, has listed Mathew's father as Francis Kincade b.1770/1779 > d.1830, a brother named James b..1799, and a brother named Washington > b.1816 > d. aft 1880. > > Mathew does not show up in any census records after 1860. His children for > the most part, moved to northwest MO, and do show up in census records in > Grundy, Caldwell and Livingston Counties. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Additional Resources: > Book titled: "A.W. Kincade", written by James H. Thomas, American Studies, > Wichita State University, 1984. The author sites the following sources: > Jim Billings, "Citizen of the Week", Bias Magazine, 21 July 1953, pp > 20-21; > Alice Moer, ed., Our Ellis County Heritage (Shattuck, OK: Ellis Co. > Historical Society, 1974), p.8 ; O.H. Richards, "Early Days in Day > County", > The Chronicles of Oklahoma, Autumn 1948, pp. 320-323 ; Ada Kincade Lane, > interview;  "Obituary", Arnett Leader, 14 Dec 1906.; Dille, The Dille > Family, p 12-13.  Book Topic: Mordecai's grandson, Author W. Kincade. > _______________________________________________________________________ > Amendment: > Additional Information: As to clarify the link between Calvin Kincade and > Mordecai Kincade > > > The 1850 Fed Census Record states: > Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana > > The 1856 Iowa State Census states: > Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana > > The 1860 Fed Census Record states: > Birth State for Mordecai and all other children but one as Indiana, > the other one is the last child born, Lovina, b. IA > > Mordecai is listed with the family of Mathew and Elizabeth in the 1860 Fed > Census for IA on pg 7 of 19 (Ancestry.com), Calvin is missing from this > family unit, but shows up on pg 12 of 19 (Ancestry.com) as his own family > unit with a wife named Telitha, right beside her brother, Anthony Nida. > > In the 1870 Fed Census for Grundy Co. Mo.., Calvin shows up with his wife > Telitha on pg 7 of 26. > > On the Missouri Secretary of State, Digital Heritage Collection website, > the Civil War Records, Calvin and Mordecai are the only two Kincade's > listed for the same regiment, same company and serving the same time, out > of the 60 some odd other Kincade/Kincaid's listed. And both are listed as > joining at the Chillicothe, Missouri office. > > All of the above information corresponds with our known family knowledge > of our great great grandfather Mordecai, which my great grandfather John > was told by his mother Martha about his father. (Mordecai died when John > was 2 in a rail road accident) > John's mother, Martha, did remarry, and is listed in the 1880 Fed Census > for the state of Missouri, in the town of Chillicothe, with her new > husband Robert Harris and two more children they had together. > > Calvin, Mordecai's brother, can be followed thru every census with his > wife, Telitha, in Grundy County, until his death in 1928. His death > certificate states his wife's name as Telitha Nida, his parents as Mathew > Kincade b. Virgina, and his mother Elizabeth Humble b. New York > > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message