Peter, in a msg posted 9/16/08, you said *does not appear to be any record to say that Mordecai was born in Indiana, nor that he was the brother of Calvin who died in Grundy Co., Mo.* The 1850 Fed Census Record states: Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana The 1856 Iowa State Census states: Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana The 1860 Fed Census Record states: Birth State for Mordecai and all other children but one as Indiana, the other one is the last child born, Lovina, b. IA Mordecai is listed with the family of Mathew and Elizabeth in the 1860 Fed Census for IA on pg 7 of 19 (Ancestry.com), Calvin is missing from this family unit, but shows up on pg 12 of 19 (Ancestry.com) as his own family unit with a wife named Telitha, right beside her brother, Anthony Nida. In the 1870 Fed Census for Grundy Co. Mo., Calvin shows up with his wife Telitha on pg 7 of 26. On the Missouri Secretary of State, Digital Heritage Collection website, the Civil War Records, Calvin and Mordecai are the only two Kincade's listed for the same regiment, same company and serving the same time, out of the 60 some odd other Kincade/Kincaid's listed. And both are listed as joining at the Chillicothe, Missouri office. All of the above information corresponds with our known family knowledge of our great great grandfather Mordecai, which my great grandfather John was told by his mother Martha about his father. (Mordecai died when John was 2 in a rail road accident) John's mother, Martha, did remarry, and is listed in the 1880 Fed Census for the state of Missouri, in the town of Chillicothe, with her new husband Robert Harris and two more children they had together. Calvin, Mordecai's brother, can be followed thru every census with his wife, Telitha, in Grundy County, until his death in 1928. His death certificate states his wife's name as Telitha Nida, his parents as Mathew Kincade b. Virgina, and his mother Elizabeth Humble b. New York

Thank you for your reply. Please take my comments as what I see was lacking in the vetting posts. I think all the points you make below should be outlined in your vetting post. If there is no document that specifically says that Mordecai and Calvin were brothers then simply and clearly state that your grandfather (or whoever) understood them to be brothers and that the all the records you cite give supporting evidence for this. I am not passing judgment on your lineage. I am giving suggestions for what is needed in your vetting post. The way I followed it was that someone down the road may not believe the connection because they do not see in the post all the information you have. Best wishes! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Post for #129770 to Mathew Kincade Peter, in a msg posted 9/16/08, you said *does not appear to be any record to say that Mordecai was born in Indiana, nor that he was the brother of Calvin who died in Grundy Co., Mo.* The 1850 Fed Census Record states: Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana The 1856 Iowa State Census states: Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana The 1860 Fed Census Record states: Birth State for Mordecai and all other children but one as Indiana, the other one is the last child born, Lovina, b. IA Mordecai is listed with the family of Mathew and Elizabeth in the 1860 Fed Census for IA on pg 7 of 19 (Ancestry.com), Calvin is missing from this family unit, but shows up on pg 12 of 19 (Ancestry.com) as his own family unit with a wife named Telitha, right beside her brother, Anthony Nida. In the 1870 Fed Census for Grundy Co. Mo., Calvin shows up with his wife Telitha on pg 7 of 26. On the Missouri Secretary of State, Digital Heritage Collection website, the Civil War Records, Calvin and Mordecai are the only two Kincade's listed for the same regiment, same company and serving the same time, out of the 60 some odd other Kincade/Kincaid's listed. And both are listed as joining at the Chillicothe, Missouri office. All of the above information corresponds with our known family knowledge of our great great grandfather Mordecai, which my great grandfather John was told by his mother Martha about his father. (Mordecai died when John was 2 in a rail road accident) John's mother, Martha, did remarry, and is listed in the 1880 Fed Census for the state of Missouri, in the town of Chillicothe, with her new husband Robert Harris and two more children they had together. Calvin, Mordecai's brother, can be followed thru every census with his wife, Telitha, in Grundy County, until his death in 1928. His death certificate states his wife's name as Telitha Nida, his parents as Mathew Kincade b. Virgina, and his mother Elizabeth Humble b. New York