Well, you can class me as in the older camp. I do believe, however, that my bluntness does not stem from my Scottish heritage. I would not want to blame the Scots in me. I think you will find my early messages quite tactful, welcoming, etc. I would say that I got hardened over the years. You can be as nice as you can but if you are the one to uncover something another person does not want to hear, etc. you get grief. Over time you just tend to forget about niceties and just shoot straight and firm. However, I do hope David does not take this personally. As Ruth alluded to, I remember my early days where I was quite thrilled to see the Kincaid-McDowell lineage out there going back to Robert the Bruce. Now this bogus lineage is nothing but a pain. I wanted to respond to this post with more of a suggestion. Some of these sensitive topics come around again over a period of time. I think that it would be useful to have some of them addressed in a message send to all new subscribers (ie. a Kincaid-L FAQ). Food for thought! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Utahn1@aol.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Reactions to Postings on the List David and others, Below is the Welcome letter which new members to the list receive. Please note paragraph three and please do NOT take any criticism written by list members personally. Sometimes the older researchers forget what it is like to be a new person to genealogy who gets excited and happy to find what they believe is their genealogical line. Our older researchers who have been around the block many times sometimes lack tact in their reactions and are less than gentle in their response. We welcome your input to the list and hope you will take Don's letter of encouragement to heart. Above all, please do not get discouraged. Ruth Cherecwich Welcome to the Kincaid of all spellings mail list. We have found there are countless variations of the name due to people adopting as their permanent name the phonetic or dialect spelling they were used to using/hearing - Kinkade, Kincade, Kincaide, Kingcade etc. You are encouraged to post your ancestral line as you know it to the List. We have well over 200 list members, and chances are reasonable that someone might know something about your line. Please post your ancestor's name along with the spouse, place(s) lived, and known or approximate dates which will help others on the list to identify the line. If you could, a timeline of ancestors working backwards from whatever date you feel comfortable, would work the best. List members are always eager to help with any Kincaid line, but our Scottish tendency is to sometimes be overly blunt and untactful in response to a post. Please do not take these comments personally as no offense will be meant by the person doing the posting. It's just that sometimes we react emotionally and don't proof read, or stop to think about, what we write. Occasionally, a line we believe is correct is actually one which was fabricated decades ago and has been disproved by the list members. This is due to documentation being more readily available to us via the internet and our List Members going on site specific research trips. You are also encouraged to check the List Archives for past dialogues which might have a bearing on your line. Go to http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=KINCAID . At this page you can type in whatever search item you wish. By searching in the Body of the messages, you may get your search term revealed in postings in which the poster did not have the appropriate subject heading. Be creative in your searches with full names, just the man or just the wife, husband/wife, etc. Another item to consider is that there are many on the list who have found DNA to be a valuable research tool used in conjunction with other documentation. You are encouraged to learn more about this new method of research which helps us continue to learn about our ancestral lines. Lastly, our goal in the pursuit of our ancestors is to have fun while learning. Enjoy the list, contribute to it, meet new extended family members, and make new friends. Ruth Cherecwich, List Administrator **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter, it was thought that by encouraging a trip to the archives new members could discover what the disproven lineages are before they post to the list. Perhaps a more strongly worded advisement and caution to do so might be of help. For instance: "There are several widely circulated lineages that have been disproven so it is advisable to check the list archives for past dialogues which may have a bearing on your line before making your first post to the list." It is with posts by new members that we can expand our knowledge of known Kincaid lines and pick up lines previously unknown. Their posts benefit us all. It is important for them to know that their input is appreciated and list members will do all they can to help them find connections. This is one of the more active, caring and helpful lists at Rootsweb but sometimes, because we do care, we can come off a bit blunt. Sue Liedtke > > I wanted to respond to this post with more of a suggestion. > Some of these sensitive topics come around again over > a period of time. I think that it would be useful to have some > of them addressed in a message send to all new subscribers > (ie. a Kincaid-L FAQ). Food for thought! > > Peter > > > > List members are always eager to help with any Kincaid line, but our > Scottish tendency is to sometimes be overly blunt and untactful in > response to a > post. Please do not take these comments personally as no offense will be > meant > by the person doing the posting. It's just that sometimes we react > emotionally > and don't proof read, or stop to think about, what we write. > Occasionally, a > line we believe is correct is actually one which was fabricated decades > ago > and has been disproved by the list members. This is due to documentation > being more readily available to us via the internet and our List Members > going on > site specific research trips. > > You are also encouraged to check the List Archives for past dialogues > which > might have a bearing on your line. Go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=KINCAID . At > this page you can type in whatever search > item you wish. By searching in the Body of the messages, you may get > your > search term revealed in postings in which the poster did not have the > appropriate subject heading. Be creative in your searches with full > names, just the man > or just the wife, husband/wife, etc. >