Thanks. This explains your research better. If you do plan on further research, I suspect that there is some tidbit abour Mordecai's death. Train accidents tend to get some comment in papers - even those far away. Best wishes! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Amended Post - Vetting #129770 to Mathew Kincade >Peter, Norman, Sue: Is this what was needed? > > Robert Riley Kincade #129770 Participant > (Testing in Progress) > Researcher: Kelly Kincade-Lewis, dau of Robert R. Kincade > > Vetting Robert Riley Kincade to Mathew Kincade & Elizabeth Humble > _________________________________________________________________ > Robert Riley Kincade b. Muskogee, OK 7/13/1931 > > Son of: Robert Seth Kincade & Hattie Louise Lay > > Proven by: > 1931 OK Birth Cert. for Robert Riley Kincade naming his parents > as Robert Seth Kincade & Hattie Louise Lay. > > Personal Knowledge: Robert knew his father and was acknowledge by > family as Robert Seth Kincade's son. > __________________________________________________________________ > Robert Seth Kincade b.Ellis Co.OK 4/29/1905 d.Springfield,MO 2/1970 > > Son of: John Albert Kincade and Flora A. Dilley m. 2/18/1891 > > Proven by: > Social Security Death Index Record; stating his date of birth as > 4/29/1905, stating place of birth as OK, and stating place of death > as Springfield, MO Feb 1970. > > US Marine Corp Muster Rolls 1798-1940; Personal records ordered from > the Nat'l Archives stating his date of birth as 4/29/1905, stating his > birth as Arnett, Ellis Co. OK, stating parents as John A. Kincade & Flora > A. Dilley. > > 1910 US Fed Census Records; OK, Harper, Twn of Haskell, family listed as: > J.A.Kincade - head- 39 - m 2 b.MO > Bulah G. Kincade - wife - (stepmom) 20 m 1 b.IA > Ross Kincade - son 10 b.MO > Louise Kincade - dau 7 b.MO > Robert Kincade - son 5 b.OK > Coda Kincade - dau 10/12 b.OK (should be Cleta) > > 1920 US Fed Census Records; MO, Greene, Twn of Springfield Ward 5,family > as: > John A. Kincaid - head 39 b.MO > Beulah Kincaid - wife 30 b.IA > Louise Kincaid -dau 17 b.MO > Robert Kincaid - son 14 b.OK > Cleda Kincaid - dau 10 b. MO > Ivan Kincaid - son 7 4/12 b.OK > Cora Kincaid - dau 1 4/12 b.MO > > Personal knowledge; Robert Seth knew his father and was accepted by family > and friends as John Albert Kincade's son. > __________________________________________________________________________ > John Albert Kincade b.Chillicothe, Livingston Co,MO 7/18/1870 d.1/12/1960 > Springfield,Greene Co., MO > > Son of: Mordecai Kincade & Martha Jane Bailey (Bates) > > Proven by: > Marriage Cert. from Day Co.(now Ellis Co.) OK, dated 12/9/1907, listing > his parents as Mortica Kincade and Martha J. Bates. > > Bias Magazine:Vol 4 -#11, dated 7/21/1953; Personal Biography (Citizen > of the Week Article) of John Albert Kincade, stating his parents as > Mordecai > and Martha Jane Kincade of Chillicothe, MO. As reported by Jim Billings, > Bias Magazine Reporter. > > Personal Knowledge; Robert Riley Kincade & Robert Seth Kincade knew John > Albert Kincade as Robert Seth's father, and Robert Riley's grandfather. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Mordecai Kincade b.IN abt 1844 d.Chillicothe,MO 1872 > > Son of: Mathew Kincade & Elizabeth Humble > > Proven by: > 1850 US Census, IN, Marion Co, Twn Lawrence, family as listed: > Mathew Kingkale no age b.VA Male > Elizabeth Kingkade 34 b.IN Female (KY?) > Calvin Kingkade 9 b.IN Male > Sally Kingkade 8 b.IN Female > Mordeca Kingkade 5 b.IN Male > Thomas Kingkade 3 b.IN Male > Francis Kingkade 5/12 b.IN Male > > 1856 State of IA Census, Wayne Co, Twn Benton, family as listed: > Mathew Kincade 48 b.VA Male > Elizabeth Kincade 43 b.KY Female > Calvin Kincade 16 b.IN Male > Saras S Kincade 14 b.IN Female > Mordica Kincade 12 b.IN Male > Thomas Kincade 8 b.IN Male > Frances Kincade 4 b.IN Female (should be Male) > Hannah J Kincade 3 b.IN Female > James Kincade 1 b.IN Male > Alexander Terrel 20 b.OH Male > > 1860 US Census, IA, Wayne Co, Twn Benton, family as listed: > Mathew Kincaid 53 Male b.VA > Elizabeth Kincaid 47 Female b.KY > Mordica Kincaid 16 Male b.IN > Thomas Kincaid 12 Male b.IN > Frances Kincaid 13 Male b.IN > Hannah J Kincaid 8 Female b.IN > James Kincaid 5 Male b.IN > Lovina Kincaid 2 Female b.IA > ______________________________________________________________________ > I haven't found a death cert. for Mordecai Kincade, but I did find one > for his brother Calvin, who is listed on the above 1850 Fed & 1856 IA > State census records. His birth is listed as 7/27/1839, place of birth > is listed as Indiana, date of death is 2/1/1928 (88yrs, 6mo, 5 days) in > the city of Trenton, Co. of Grundy, MO. buried in N.Evans Cemetary, > Trenton, Mo on Feb 2 1928. I found this info on the State of MO's Digital > Heritage Web Site. It is also filed in Grundy County Mo (1928). It lists > his parents as Mathew Kincade b.VA and Elizabeth Humble b.NY. Calvin is > also located on the IA 1860 Fed Census in the same county-Wayne, > twn-Benton and Post Office-Corydon, as the rest of his family, but listed > separately, with his wife: > Calvin Kincaid 20 b.IN > Tlitha Kincaid 18 b.VA > > Also located on the MO Digital Heritage web site, is the service records > for the men of the Civil War, with Mordecai & his brother Calvin listed; > Secretary of State, Missouri Digital Heritage Collection; Missouri > State Archives; Soliders Records: War of 1812-WW 1; Office of Adjutant > General, Box 47, Reel s780: > > Mordecai Kincade- Rank:Private, Conflict:Civil War, Side:Union, > Organization:Enrolled Missouri Militia, Company:C, Commander:Capt ?A > Spickard, Enrolled:July 12,1862 Where:Chillicothe,MO Ordered into active > service:July 12,1862 Relieved from duty:Apr 4,1863 *(152 days) Ordered > into active service:July 20,1864, Relieved from duty:1864 (27 days), > Number > days actual service:179, Remarks:Prov't EMM left state, Card #611 > > Calvin Kincade- Rank:Private, Conflict:Civil War, Side:Union, > Organization:Enrolled Missouri Militia, Company:C, Commander:Capt ?A > Sprickard, Enrolled:July12,1862, Where:Chillicothe,MO, Ordered into active > service:July 12,1862 Relieved from duty:Apr 4,1863 *(206 days) Ordered > into active service:July 20,1864, Relieved from duty:1864 (10 days), > Number > days actual service:216, Remarks:Prov't EMM left state, Card #610 > > *I noticed that they joined the same date, served the same time, yet > Mordecai was not credited with as many service days as Calvin. Both Calvin > and Mordecai left the Enrolled Missouri Militia to serve with Prov't > Missouri Militia for a battle out of state, then resumed their duties with > the regualar Missouri Militia until 1864. > ________________________________________________________________________ > Mathew Kincade b.VA abt 1807/1808 d. aft 1860 > > Son of: Unknown > I have not found any absolute proof of Mathew's father or mother. > > Leslie McConachie, who has been noted as an organized and reliable Kincaid > researcher, has listed Mathew's father as Francis Kincade b.1770/1779 > d.1830, a brother named James b.1799, and a brother named Washington > b.1816 > d. aft 1880. > > Mathew does not show up in any census records after 1860. His children for > the most part, moved to northwest MO, and do show up in census records in > Grundy, Caldwell and Livingston Counties. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Additional Resources: > Book titled: "A.W. Kincade", written by James H. Thomas, American Studies, > Wichita State University, 1984. The author sites the following sources: > Jim Billings, "Citizen of the Week", Bias Magazine, 21 July 1953, pp > 20-21; > Alice Moer, ed., Our Ellis County Heritage (Shattuck, OK: Ellis Co. > Historical Society, 1974), p.8 ; O.H. Richards, "Early Days in Day > County", > The Chronicles of Oklahoma, Autumn 1948, pp. 320-323 ; Ada Kincade Lane, > interview; "Obituary", Arnett Leader, 14 Dec 1906.; Dille, The Dille > Family, p 12-13. Book Topic: Mordecai's grandson, Author W. Kincade. > _______________________________________________________________________ > Amendment: > Additional Information: As to clarify the link between Calvin Kincade and > Mordecai Kincade > > > The 1850 Fed Census Record states: > Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana > > The 1856 Iowa State Census states: > Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana > > The 1860 Fed Census Record states: > Birth State for Mordecai and all other children but one as Indiana, > the other one is the last child born, Lovina, b. IA > > Mordecai is listed with the family of Mathew and Elizabeth in the 1860 Fed > Census for IA on pg 7 of 19 (Ancestry.com), Calvin is missing from this > family unit, but shows up on pg 12 of 19 (Ancestry.com) as his own family > unit with a wife named Telitha, right beside her brother, Anthony Nida. > > In the 1870 Fed Census for Grundy Co. Mo., Calvin shows up with his wife > Telitha on pg 7 of 26. > > On the Missouri Secretary of State, Digital Heritage Collection website, > the Civil War Records, Calvin and Mordecai are the only two Kincade's > listed for the same regiment, same company and serving the same time, out > of the 60 some odd other Kincade/Kincaid's listed. And both are listed as > joining at the Chillicothe, Missouri office. > > All of the above information corresponds with our known family knowledge > of our great great grandfather Mordecai, which my great grandfather John > was told by his mother Martha about his father. (Mordecai died when John > was 2 in a rail road accident) > John's mother, Martha, did remarry, and is listed in the 1880 Fed Census > for the state of Missouri, in the town of Chillicothe, with her new > husband Robert Harris and two more children they had together. > > Calvin, Mordecai's brother, can be followed thru every census with his > wife, Telitha, in Grundy County, until his death in 1928. His death > certificate states his wife's name as Telitha Nida, his parents as Mathew > Kincade b. Virgina, and his mother Elizabeth Humble b. New York

> Peter, Thank you. I have tried to find info on his death, but have been unsuccessful. My sister wondered if someone "pushed" him in front of an oncoming train, being as his wife remarried quickly to a man also employed by the rail road company. But seriously, if I had the means, I would go to Chillicothe and research this myself. At present, I'm not in the physical position to do any traveling. I had a great uncle, named Arthur Warren Kincade, who was the President of the Fourth National Bank in Wichita, Kansas for decades, and I understood that he had hired a genealogist to research our line of Kincades, but to this date, I have not been able to track down a single word of truth to that statement. Kelly Kincade-Lewis Thanks. This explains your research better. If you > do plan on further research, I suspect that there > is some tidbit abour Mordecai's death. Train > accidents tend to get some comment in papers - > even those far away. > > Best wishes! > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lewisjo@junct.com > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Amended Post - Vetting #129770 to Mathew Kincade > > > >Peter, Norman, Sue: > Is this what was needed? > > > > > > > Robert Riley Kincade #129770 Participant > > (Testing in Progress) > > Researcher: Kelly Kincade-Lewis, dau of Robert R. Kincade > > > > Vetting Robert Riley Kincade to Mathew Kincade & Elizabeth Humble > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Robert Riley Kincade b. Muskogee, OK 7/13/1931 > > > > Son of: Robert Seth Kincade & Hattie Louise Lay > > > > Proven by: > > 1931 OK Birth Cert. for Robert Riley Kincade naming his parents > > as Robert Seth Kincade & Hattie Louise Lay. > > > > Personal Knowledge: Robert knew his father and was acknowledge by > > family as Robert Seth Kincade's son. > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Robert Seth Kincade b.Ellis Co.OK 4/29/1905 d.Springfield,MO 2/1970 > > > > Son of: John Albert Kincade and Flora A. Dilley m. 2/18/1891 > > > > Proven by: > > Social Security Death Index Record; stating his date of birth as > > 4/29/1905, stating place of birth as OK, and stating place of death > > as Springfield, MO Feb 1970. > > > > US Marine Corp Muster Rolls 1798-1940; Personal records ordered from > > the Nat'l Archives stating his date of birth as 4/29/1905, stating his > > birth as Arnett, Ellis Co. OK, stating parents as John A. Kincade & > Flora > > A. Dilley. > > > > 1910 US Fed Census Records; OK, Harper, Twn of Haskell, family listed > as: > > J.A.Kincade - head- 39 - m 2 b.MO > > Bulah G. Kincade - wife - (stepmom) 20 m 1 b.IA > > Ross Kincade - son 10 b.MO > > Louise Kincade - dau 7 b.MO > > Robert Kincade - son 5 b.OK > > Coda Kincade - dau 10/12 b.OK (should be Cleta) > > > > 1920 US Fed Census Records; MO, Greene, Twn of Springfield Ward > 5,family > > as: > > John A. Kincaid - head 39 b.MO > > Beulah Kincaid - wife 30 b.IA > > Louise Kincaid -dau 17 b.MO > > Robert Kincaid - son 14 b.OK > > Cleda Kincaid - dau 10 b. MO > > Ivan Kincaid - son 7 4/12 b.OK > > Cora Kincaid - dau 1 4/12 b.MO > > > > Personal knowledge; Robert Seth knew his father and was accepted by > family > > and friends as John Albert Kincade's son. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > John Albert Kincade b.Chillicothe, Livingston Co,MO 7/18/1870 > d.1/12/1960 > > Springfield,Greene Co., MO > > > > Son of: Mordecai Kincade & Martha Jane Bailey (Bates) > > > > Proven by: > > Marriage Cert. from Day Co.(now Ellis Co.) OK, dated 12/9/1907, > listing > > his parents as Mortica Kincade and Martha J. Bates. > > > > Bias Magazine:Vol 4 -#11, dated 7/21/1953; Personal Biography (Citizen > > of the Week Article) of John Albert Kincade, stating his parents as > > Mordecai > > and Martha Jane Kincade of Chillicothe, MO. As reported by Jim > Billings, > > Bias Magazine Reporter. > > > > Personal Knowledge; Robert Riley Kincade & Robert Seth Kincade knew > John > > Albert Kincade as Robert Seth's father, and Robert Riley's > grandfather. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Mordecai Kincade b.IN abt 1844 d.Chillicothe,MO 1872 > > > > Son of: Mathew Kincade & Elizabeth Humble > > > > Proven by: > > 1850 US Census, IN, Marion Co, Twn Lawrence, family as listed: > > Mathew Kingkale no age b.VA Male > > Elizabeth Kingkade 34 b.IN Female (KY?) > > Calvin Kingkade 9 b.IN Male > > Sally Kingkade 8 b.IN Female > > Mordeca Kingkade 5 b.IN Male > > Thomas Kingkade 3 b.IN Male > > Francis Kingkade 5/12 b.IN Male > > > > 1856 State of IA Census, Wayne Co, Twn Benton, family as listed: > > Mathew Kincade 48 b.VA Male > > Elizabeth Kincade 43 b.KY Female > > Calvin Kincade 16 b.IN Male > > Saras S Kincade 14 b.IN Female > > Mordica Kincade 12 b.IN Male > > Thomas Kincade 8 b.IN Male > > Frances Kincade 4 b.IN Female (should be Male) > > Hannah J Kincade 3 b.IN Female > > James Kincade 1 b.IN Male > > Alexander Terrel 20 b.OH Male > > > > 1860 US Census, IA, Wayne Co, Twn Benton, family as listed: > > Mathew Kincaid 53 Male b.VA > > Elizabeth Kincaid 47 Female b.KY > > Mordica Kincaid 16 Male b.IN > > Thomas Kincaid 12 Male b.IN > > Frances Kincaid 13 Male b.IN > > Hannah J Kincaid 8 Female b.IN > > James Kincaid 5 Male b.IN > > Lovina Kincaid 2 Female b.IA > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > I haven't found a death cert. for Mordecai Kincade, but I did find one > > for his brother Calvin, who is listed on the above 1850 Fed & 1856 IA > > State census records. His birth is listed as 7/27/1839, place of birth > > is listed as Indiana, date of death is 2/1/1928 (88yrs, 6mo, 5 days) > in > > the city of Trenton, Co. of Grundy, MO. buried in N.Evans Cemetary, > > Trenton, Mo on Feb 2 1928. I found this info on the State of MO's > Digital > > Heritage Web Site. It is also filed in Grundy County Mo (1928). It > lists > > his parents as Mathew Kincade b.VA and Elizabeth Humble b.NY. Calvin > is > > also located on the IA 1860 Fed Census in the same county-Wayne, > > twn-Benton and Post Office-Corydon, as the rest of his family, but > listed > > separately, with his wife: > > Calvin Kincaid 20 b.IN > > Tlitha Kincaid 18 b.VA > > > > Also located on the MO Digital Heritage web site, is the service > records > > for the men of the Civil War, with Mordecai & his brother Calvin > listed; > > Secretary of State, Missouri Digital Heritage Collection; Missouri > > State Archives; Soliders Records: War of 1812-WW 1; Office of Adjutant > > General, Box 47, Reel s780: > > > > Mordecai Kincade- Rank:Private, Conflict:Civil War, Side:Union, > > Organization:Enrolled Missouri Militia, Company:C, Commander:Capt ?A > > Spickard, Enrolled:July 12,1862 Where:Chillicothe,MO Ordered into > active > > service:July 12,1862 Relieved from duty:Apr 4,1863 *(152 days) > Ordered > > into active service:July 20,1864, Relieved from duty:1864 (27 days), > > Number > > days actual service:179, Remarks:Prov't EMM left state, Card #611 > > > > Calvin Kincade- Rank:Private, Conflict:Civil War, Side:Union, > > Organization:Enrolled Missouri Militia, Company:C, Commander:Capt ?A > > Sprickard, Enrolled:July12,1862, Where:Chillicothe,MO, Ordered into > active > > service:July 12,1862 Relieved from duty:Apr 4,1863 *(206 days) Ordered > > into active service:July 20,1864, Relieved from duty:1864 (10 days), > > Number > > days actual service:216, Remarks:Prov't EMM left state, Card #610 > > > > *I noticed that they joined the same date, served the same time, yet > > Mordecai was not credited with as many service days as Calvin. Both > Calvin > > and Mordecai left the Enrolled Missouri Militia to serve with Prov't > > Missouri Militia for a battle out of state, then resumed their duties > with > > the regualar Missouri Militia until 1864. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Mathew Kincade b.VA abt 1807/1808 d. aft 1860 > > > > Son of: Unknown > > I have not found any absolute proof of Mathew's father or mother. > > > > Leslie McConachie, who has been noted as an organized and reliable > Kincaid > > researcher, has listed Mathew's father as Francis Kincade b.1770/1779 > > d.1830, a brother named James b.1799, and a brother named Washington > > b.1816 > > d. aft 1880. > > > > Mathew does not show up in any census records after 1860. His children > for > > the most part, moved to northwest MO, and do show up in census records > in > > Grundy, Caldwell and Livingston Counties. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Additional Resources: > > Book titled: "A.W. Kincade", written by James H. Thomas, American > Studies, > > Wichita State University, 1984. The author sites the following > sources: > > Jim Billings, "Citizen of the Week", Bias Magazine, 21 July 1953, pp > > 20-21; > > Alice Moer, ed., Our Ellis County Heritage (Shattuck, OK: Ellis Co. > > Historical Society, 1974), p.8 ; O.H. Richards, "Early Days in Day > > County", > > The Chronicles of Oklahoma, Autumn 1948, pp. 320-323 ; Ada Kincade > Lane, > > interview; "Obituary", Arnett Leader, 14 Dec 1906.; Dille, The Dille > > Family, p 12-13. Book Topic: Mordecai's grandson, Author W. Kincade. > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Amendment: > > Additional Information: As to clarify the link between Calvin Kincade > and > > Mordecai Kincade > > > > > > The 1850 Fed Census Record states: > > Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana > > > > The 1856 Iowa State Census states: > > Birth State for Calvin, Mordecai and other children as Indiana > > > > The 1860 Fed Census Record states: > > Birth State for Mordecai and all other children but one as Indiana, > > the other one is the last child born, Lovina, b. IA > > > > Mordecai is listed with the family of Mathew and Elizabeth in the 1860 > Fed > > Census for IA on pg 7 of 19 (Ancestry.com), Calvin is missing from > this > > family unit, but shows up on pg 12 of 19 (Ancestry.com) as his own > family > > unit with a wife named Telitha, right beside her brother, Anthony > Nida. > > > > In the 1870 Fed Census for Grundy Co. Mo., Calvin shows up with his > wife > > Telitha on pg 7 of 26. > > > > On the Missouri Secretary of State, Digital Heritage Collection > website, > > the Civil War Records, Calvin and Mordecai are the only two Kincade's > > listed for the same regiment, same company and serving the same time, > out > > of the 60 some odd other Kincade/Kincaid's listed. And both are listed > as > > joining at the Chillicothe, Missouri office. > > > > All of the above information corresponds with our known family > knowledge > > of our great great grandfather Mordecai, which my great grandfather > John > > was told by his mother Martha about his father. (Mordecai died when > John > > was 2 in a rail road accident) > > John's mother, Martha, did remarry, and is listed in the 1880 Fed > Census > > for the state of Missouri, in the town of Chillicothe, with her new > > husband Robert Harris and two more children they had together. > > > > Calvin, Mordecai's brother, can be followed thru every census with his > > wife, Telitha, in Grundy County, until his death in 1928. His death > > certificate states his wife's name as Telitha Nida, his parents as > Mathew > > Kincade b. Virgina, and his mother Elizabeth Humble b. New York > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Now I am quite sure there was something on this Arthur Warren Kincaid somewhere (an old letter or something). I see he was in Who's Who in America. Got me curious where I saw things. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Amended Post - Vetting #129770 to Mathew Kincade > Peter, Thank you. I have tried to find info on his death, but have been unsuccessful. My sister wondered if someone "pushed" him in front of an oncoming train, being as his wife remarried quickly to a man also employed by the rail road company. But seriously, if I had the means, I would go to Chillicothe and research this myself. At present, I'm not in the physical position to do any traveling. I had a great uncle, named Arthur Warren Kincade, who was the President of the Fourth National Bank in Wichita, Kansas for decades, and I understood that he had hired a genealogist to research our line of Kincades, but to this date, I have not been able to track down a single word of truth to that statement. Kelly Kincade-Lewis