I believe that David's brother John married Mary "Polly" Thompson and were in Shelby County, KY in the early 1800's. The names of John Kincaid/Polly Thompson (daughter of Joseph Thompson/Mary Gibson of Jessamine County) match some of the names of children of David Kinkead who went to Boone County, MO. David and John both had daughters named Dorcas and sons named Matthew. John/Polly of Shelby County had a daughter named Elizabeth. Matthew, son of John Kincaid/Mary Polly Thompson moved to Montgomery County, Indiana with the Galey relatives in the 1820's. MARRIAGES: Performed by Rev. James Crawford, 1786 - 1795, Fayette Co., KY The Rev. John Dabney Shane Manuscript Collection of the Presbyterian Historical Association, 28th Reel, Vol. 5, Papers of James Crawford. (Crawford, minister of Walnut Hill Presbyterian Church, Fayette Co., KY (and others)) Marriage David Kinkaid & Jane Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) The information has been transcribed according to the manuscript EXCEPT for the parenthetical question marks "(?)" which were placed where names were extremely questionable. 1786 "April 11th Joined in Marriage David Kinkaid & Jane Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) "April 13th Joined in Marriage James Young & Mary Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) "April 20th Joined in Marriage James Black & Elizabeth Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) "Oct. 5th Joined in Marriage John McDonald & Sarah Kinkaid. 1790 "Augt. 12th John Kinkaid & Mary Thompson. "Jan. 27th 1791. James Gailey & Nancy Thompson. "Mar. 3d Archibald Logan & Rachel Thompson. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/fayette/vitals/marriages/c616-001.txt *********************** Records that name the children of John Kincaid/Polly in Shelby County as posted by descendant Henry Counihan: Recorded Will Book 3, starting on page 450, Shelby County, KY. POLLY KINKEAD Recorded book 3 page 450. Know all men by these presents, that I John Kinkeade of Shelby County(Kentucky) do make over and will to Polly Kinkeade my wifeduring her lifetime a Negrowoman named Molly, to have and Ýo hold her during the time above mentioned to wait on her to which we the under signed do set our hands and af(f)ix our Seals this 20th of July 1816. Signed; JOHN KINKEAD, in the presence of James Neal (Jane),Matthew Kinkead: William Mulliken (Dorcas); James Galey (Polly); Polly Kinkád; Elizabeth Kinkead (her mark); James Neal ************* Shelby County Court August Term 1816 The within instruments of writing purporting to be the last will and testament was presented to the Court and proven by the Oaths James Neal and Jesse Vancleave witnesses thereto and ordered to be recorded. Jno Newland Clk. The John Kinkead Administrative Settlement, Jas Neill Admin Debonis non, was presented at the June 1842 Court Schd Subject to Exception, and in July was ordered to be recorded in Will Book No. 15 page 27, Attested: James S. Whitaker, Clerk Deed Book U of Shelby County, Kentucky, pages 283 & 284 This indenture made this 28th day of September 1825, between James Galey and America his wife, Samuel Galey and Polly his wife, James Neal and Jane his wife. William Mulliken and Diorcas his wife, & Elizabeth Kinkade a part of the heirs of John Kinkead dec'd of the first part and Allen Kinkead of the second part all of oldham Shelby Counties, witnesseth that whereas John Kinkead departed his life leaving a tract of land in Shelby County on the waters of Bullskin containing about one hundred and twenty acres to descend to his children a part of whom are named as above; the boundaries of whisch tract will appear by reference to a deed made by Benjamin Vancleave to the said John Kinkead bearing the date the 27th day of October 1814 and a deed from the said Matthew Kinkead bearing the date the 6th of June 1816, both recorded in the office of the County Court of Shelby and the said John Kinkead also left several slaves to be divided, which slaves with their increase ar e now five in number and the above parties have made the following agreement; to wit James Galey and America his wife, Samuel Galey and Polly his wife, James Neil and Jane his wife, Elizabeth Kinkead, Joseph Kinkead and Adderson Kinkead severally agree to release and convey their undivided interest in said land to the said Allen Kinkead, and the said Allen Kinkead in consideration thereof is to releaseand convey to the parties last named all his interest in the slaves aforesaid, and the said William Mullakin and his wife agree to sell their undivided interest in the land to the said Allen Kinkead for the sum of Eighty Dollars in Specie, now therefore the pary of the first part in pursuance of said agreement and for the consideration in the agreement expressed have granted bargained and sold and by thes presents do convey unto the party of the second part and his heirs forever that interestin said tract of land. T o have and to hold the undivided interest of the party of the first part in and to the said tract of land to him the said party of the second part and his heirs forever and the party of the first part Covenant that they will warrent said undivided interest to the party of the second part and his heirs forever against claim of all persons whomsoever. In Testimony whereof the said party of the first part have hereto set their hands & seals the day first above written, Signed: James Neill; Samuel Galey; Mary Galey; Jane Neill; James Galey: America Galey; Elizabeth Kinkead; William Mullikin; Dorcas Mullikin It appears that the youngest children of John/Polly were Allen, Joseph and Addison. Allen Kincaid married Susannah Ellis and remained in Shelby County, KY. Addison Kincaid married Evelyn Waide in 1833 in Hardin County, KY and remained there, with sons John and James. I don't know who Joseph married. There is another deed recorded in Deed Book X, pages 60 &61, of Shelby County, Kentucky, that was made between Addison Kinkead of the county of Jefferson , Kentucky, and Joseph Kinkead of Boon County, Kentucky, both now of Shelby County, Kentucky, made with Allen Kinkead of Shelby County, Kentucky, dated 9 September 1828, in which Addison and Joseph relinquish their interest in the 120 acres on Bullskin Creek for Allen's relinquishing his interest in the several slaves. This was recorded in the Shelby County Court Clerk's office on 9 September 1828. Att. Ja. S, Whitaker Clk Deed Book U, Page 285/286 of Shelby County, Kentucky This indenture made this 28th day of September 1825 between Allen Kinkead fo Shelby County of the first part and James Galey Jun. & America his wife; Samuel Galey and Polly his wife;James Neill and Jane his wife;Elizabeth Kinkead, joseph Kinkead and Adderson Kinkead of the second part Witnesseth that whereas John Kinkead Dec'd left a tract of about 120 acres of land and several slaves which amount at this time to five in number to descend to hiss heirs of whom the above parties and apart and the parties aforesaid have agreed that the party of the first part shal release his title to the slavess to the party of the second part and the partyy of the second partt in consideration thereof and to convey to the party of the first part their undivided interest in the tract of land under which agreement all the party of the second parthave joined in a conveyance of land except Joseph Kinkead and Adison Kinkead who are hereafter to release their Ýitle. Now the party of the first part in pursuance of said agreement and in consideration of the interest conveyed and to be conveyed as aforesaid doth both release transfer & convey to the party of the second part and his heirs forever all his right and title and undivided interest in the slaves aforesaid and will warrent his title hereby released to the pary of the second part and their heirs against all claims of all persons whomsoever. In Testimony whereof the party of the first part hath hereunder set his hand and seal the date first above written. Signed: Allen Kinkead Shelby County Court Office Sct This deed was acknowledged before me in my office on the 28th day of September 1828 by Allen Kinkead to be his act and deed and thereupon the same was duly recorded. Att Ja. S . Whitaker ck In 1842 all male descendents of John Kinkead had moved out of Kentucky according to the Commissioners appointed by the Shelby County Court to settle the estate. See" Will" settlement by June term of 1842. James Neal and presumably his wife Jane still resided in Shelby County. In fact they spent their last days there. In fact Allen Kinkead was living on Shelby County land deeded from his siblings, if he would provide for their mother. He has a will filed in Shelby County Court in 1852. Apparently the Commissioners wer not very thorough See deed bond under Polly Kinkead #146. Deed book U page 285, Shelby County Court records. More records from Henry Counihan here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/kincaid/2006-06/1149827917 Barbara Van Hout ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis House" <dhouse95@earthlink.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > 1801 is the year that David Kinkead, s/o Mathew Kinkead(d.1775)/Elizabeth > McTeer, arrived in Ky. His brother John was also around somewhere. David > would have been 37 or 38 at that time, and he is said ti have had 8 > children. > > Who built Kincaids fort? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > > >> Stumbled across the following tidbit: >> >> Death Notices From Callaway Newspapers >> The Telegraph and The Missouri Telegraph >> 1873 >> >> Kincaid >> John Kincaid, an old pioneer, died at his residence in Boone County, Nov. >> 5th, aged 77 years. He came to Missouri in 1801, and his father built >> Kincaids Fort, in Cooper's bottom. Deceased was a pensioner of the war >> of 1812. Nov. 28, 1873 3/2 >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/callaway/Obits/Obits1873.htm >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The first panel (markers 1-12) of the 37 marker test ordered by 128809 have been returned. They are several weeks earlier than estimated so FTDNA is up and functioning. So far he does not match exactly any other member of the project. The 1-12 markers do not give a good picture of what the overall result will look like so I will refrain from comment until more panels are returned. Sue Liedtke

So far 128809 is just one mutation off from sample 95627. Perhaps a new cluster will emerge. Do you have any info on the earliest known ancestor of either 128809 or 95627? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liedtke To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:13 PM Subject: [KINCAID] New FTDNA results for 128809 The first panel (markers 1-12) of the 37 marker test ordered by 128809 have been returned. They are several weeks earlier than estimated so FTDNA is up and functioning. So far he does not match exactly any other member of the project. The 1-12 markers do not give a good picture of what the overall result will look like so I will refrain from comment until more panels are returned. Sue Liedtke