Kelly, A great read and one that will make us proud to be a Kincaid of any spelling not only because Joseph was a very prominent citizen but because he seemed to be a good man and treated everyone he dealt with fairly. It would be interesting to find why or how the spelling changed from Kinkead for Rev. Joseph to Kincaid for his grandson Joseph. This Joseph Kincaid was also spelled Kincaide once in the article. Don W. ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's >Here it is: http://ideas.repec.org/p/ucn/wpaper/200208.html#provider Kelly Kincade-Lewis Thanks for thinking of us Kelly. I have read this paper. > He was the grandson of Rev. Joseph Kinkead of > Killinchy, County Down who was of the Baronscourt, > County Tyrone Kincaids. You can post the link > in case someone else is interested. I did not keep > track of it. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lewisjo@junct.com > To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's > > > Peter, > Do you have the information on J.R. Stewart & Joseph Kincaid, Irish Land > agents with an office that was in Dublin? If you don't have this info, I > can get the url for anyone who wants it. It is a paper by Desmond > Norton, > University College Dublin, published by School of Economics, it is the > correspondence of the land agency which has been discussed in this paper > by the above author. The paper is 32 pages long and can be downloaded > easily. > Kelly Kincade-Lewis > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don, I made a booboo, I spelled it like my last name when I typed it in the subject line, boy, habits die hard don't they? I found the paper very interesting. I would like to review all the original documents he used for this paper. He had access to so many land holdings, they had to know who owned the majority of land in that area. Not to mention the time frame, during some of Irelands worst times, this Kincaid headed many charitable funds in order to help relieve the suffering of so many who were less fortunate. Whether he did this for personal gain, enhancing his business associations, or whether he did this for the truly unselfish love of his fellow man, he did make a name for himself and his business partner and long into this century after he was gone. Kelly Kincade-Lewis Kelly, > > A great read and one that will make us proud to be a Kincaid of any > spelling not only because Joseph was a very prominent citizen but because > he seemed to be a good man and treated everyone he dealt with fairly. It > would be interesting to find why or how the spelling changed from Kinkead > for Rev. Joseph to Kincaid for his grandson Joseph. This Joseph Kincaid > was also spelled Kincaide once in the article. > > Don W. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lewisjo@junct.com > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's > > > >Here it is: > > http://ideas.repec.org/p/ucn/wpaper/200208.html#provider > > Kelly Kincade-Lewis > > > > Thanks for thinking of us Kelly. I have read this paper. > > He was the grandson of Rev. Joseph Kinkead of > > Killinchy, County Down who was of the Baronscourt, > > County Tyrone Kincaids. You can post the link > > in case someone else is interested. I did not keep > > track of it. > > > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: lewisjo@junct.com > > To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of > 1840's > > > > > > Peter, > > Do you have the information on J.R. Stewart & Joseph Kincaid, Irish > Land > > agents with an office that was in Dublin? If you don't have this > info, I > > can get the url for anyone who wants it. It is a paper by Desmond > > Norton, > > University College Dublin, published by School of Economics, it is > the > > correspondence of the land agency which has been discussed in this > paper > > by the above author. The paper is 32 pages long and can be > downloaded > > easily. > > Kelly Kincade-Lewis > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Not so fast about Joseph being a 'considered' a good guy. I know some here who consider him a ruthless land agent more bent on profits for his clients than consideration for the poor average tenant. A huge scandal broke out here when, acting for the powerful Lord Palmerston, he transported a ship load of poor tenants from Palmerston's estate as winter was starting here. An international uproar occurred because it was alleged that they arrived here starving and half naked. They were poorly equipped for what they walked into with little prospect of getting any work for the next several months. I suspect there were political aspects to the scandal but, at the very least, people here were not too pleased to have a boat load of poor immigrants thrust on the charity of the citizens of the City of Saint John and this Province this late in the season. Best wishes! Peter A. Kincaid Fredericton, NB, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Don W. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's Kelly, A great read and one that will make us proud to be a Kincaid of any spelling not only because Joseph was a very prominent citizen but because he seemed to be a good man and treated everyone he dealt with fairly. It would be interesting to find why or how the spelling changed from Kinkead for Rev. Joseph to Kincaid for his grandson Joseph. This Joseph Kincaid was also spelled Kincaide once in the article. Don W. ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's >Here it is: http://ideas.repec.org/p/ucn/wpaper/200208.html#provider Kelly Kincade-Lewis Thanks for thinking of us Kelly. I have read this paper. > He was the grandson of Rev. Joseph Kinkead of > Killinchy, County Down who was of the Baronscourt, > County Tyrone Kincaids. You can post the link > in case someone else is interested. I did not keep > track of it. > > Peter

Further to my point below, see the following commentary: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/IRELAND/2007-01/1168712967 I think this will give you more detail on the situation. This leads me to ask with we still read about Joseph Kincaid because of his fame or because of this infamy. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter A. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's Not so fast about Joseph being a 'considered' a good guy. I know some here who consider him a ruthless land agent more bent on profits for his clients than consideration for the poor average tenant. A huge scandal broke out here when, acting for the powerful Lord Palmerston, he transported a ship load of poor tenants from Palmerston's estate as winter was starting here. An international uproar occurred because it was alleged that they arrived here starving and half naked. They were poorly equipped for what they walked into with little prospect of getting any work for the next several months. I suspect there were political aspects to the scandal but, at the very least, people here were not too pleased to have a boat load of poor immigrants thrust on the charity of the citizens of the City of Saint John and this Province this late in the season. Best wishes! Peter A. Kincaid Fredericton, NB, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Don W. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's Kelly, A great read and one that will make us proud to be a Kincaid of any spelling not only because Joseph was a very prominent citizen but because he seemed to be a good man and treated everyone he dealt with fairly. It would be interesting to find why or how the spelling changed from Kinkead for Rev. Joseph to Kincaid for his grandson Joseph. This Joseph Kincaid was also spelled Kincaide once in the article. Don W. ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's >Here it is: http://ideas.repec.org/p/ucn/wpaper/200208.html#provider Kelly Kincade-Lewis Thanks for thinking of us Kelly. I have read this paper. > He was the grandson of Rev. Joseph Kinkead of > Killinchy, County Down who was of the Baronscourt, > County Tyrone Kincaids. You can post the link > in case someone else is interested. I did not keep > track of it. > > Peter To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message