I am wondering if the McLaughlin name appears in your research relating to the Woodburns. I have the following tidbit of interest to me. Recall that my Kincaids are quite closely related DNA wise to the James Woodburn Kincaid participants. d. Sussex (Kings Co.) at residence of John McLaughlin, Saturday 24th inst., age 96, Ezekiel McLaughlin, a native of County Derry, Ireland. He spent most of his days in Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania (New York Observer and Cumberland papers please copy) Funeral Monday 2 o'clock from residence of John McLaughlin [The Daily Telegraph, Saint John, NB. 26 January 1885]. Best wishes! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Norman Kincaide To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:49 PM Subject: [KINCAID] test message Thanks to all who responded. I have had this problem before and it is very puzzling and frustrating after having spent several hours researching and constructing a timeline for the Woodburn family. In the Biographical Annals of Cumberland County, PA it stated that this Woodburn family came from Ireland. I still haven't found out why or how the Woodburns may be related to the West Pennsborough, Cumberland County, PA Kincaids. If it is a marriage between a Kincaid and a Woodburn I haven't found it yet. Sincerely Norman Kincaide