Dear Larry, I'm working on it now.  Hopefully I may have something to post later in the day. I think this Samuel Kincaid is from Group A, possibly from James Kinkead, coroner & recorder of Westmoreland County and perhaps associated with Andrew Kinkead, Derry Township, Westmoreland County, PA, son of George Kinkead.  But I don't have a clear connection yet. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Larry Kincaid <larryk34@gmail.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Samuel Kincade Jr. Has anyone found a connection between these Kincaid's in Bulter County PA and any of the Kincaid DNA Subgroups?  Perhaps this is what Norman is trying to do.  A few months ago I sent an email to Norman about someone I work with named Storey, who found out that his ancestors in Butler County had farms adjacent to to this same Samuel Kincaid's farm.  Of course, I was curious if this Samuel Kincaid was related to anyone in Group C-2.  The following addtional information may be of interest, because my colleague has information about a Storey-Kincaid connection in northern Scotland.  He also knows which part of northern Ireland from which his ancestors migrated to PA and then Butler County, PA.  I'm always suspicious that groups of families migrated together to specific areas to buy land, rather than just as unconnected families.  Here's the additional information that he shared with me: _________________________________________________________________________________ The Storeys in western Pennsylvania. They (father Alexander Baird Storey and three sons, James, William & Robert) entered the country prior to the first census in 1790 because they appear in the roles of Chester County, PA. They settled briefly in Westmoreland County south of Pittsburgh, and then bought land northeast of Pittsburgh in Butler County in 1792. All four are buried in the Lower Bear Creek Cemetery in Fairview, PA.  Several other details suggest that these Storeys may have come originally (before Belfast) from northern Scotland, rather than the Border area. *There is a known clan of Storey's associated with the Ogilvie and Kincaid clans in northern Scotland. *  James' will (the one I'm descended from, who was the oldest of the three brothers and died of wounds sustained fighting the British in the War of 1812 on the Ohio-Pennsylvania border) lists his possessions at the time of his death in 1815. >From this website on the history of Butler County: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabutler/1895/95x44.htm  and also http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabutler/1883/83-40.htm FIRST SETTLERS:  In 1794 Rudolph BARNHART came into this township and settled on a tract of land near Karns City, now known as the *KINKAID farm*. . . . Alexander STOREY, a native of Ireland, moved from Eastern Pennsylvania to Westmoreland County, and thence to Butler County.  *Squire KINCAID*, a prominent figure among the pioneers, lived and died on a farm adjacent to the RIDDLE farm. *His son James* occupied the old homestead until his death; his widow and children moved West after the oil excitement commenced. ____________________________________________________________________________________________ Is there any way to find a descendent of this Samuel Kincaid (Butler County PA) to obtain a DNA profile?  Or can anyone on the Kincaid list find this Kincaid in their own genealogy?  Don Larry Kincaid (Group C-2) On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Alice Gedge <adgedge@burgoyne.com> wrote: > The son of Samuel Kincaid m. Sarah Reed was not born until 1804 in Adams > Co., OH., so it wasn't that Samuel.  In 1793 and 1795, the Samuel Kincaid > who m. Sarah Reed was living in St. Clair Township, Allegheny Co., PA. > > I have a note that says Baldwin Twp. was created in 1844 from Upper and > Lower St. Clair, Jefferson & Mifflin Twps.  Baldwin Twp. is just south of > Pittsburgh.  Butler County is north of Pittsburgh, so it isn't likely to be > the Samuel Kincaid who m. Sarah Reed either. > > My sister, Chris Kraft, has the Samuel Kincaid who m. Elizabeth Wilson as > moving from Fayette Co., PA (where he was in 1790) to Hardin Co., KY. > (where > he was in 1795). > > I don't know who your Samuel Kincade, Jr. is. > > Alice Gedge > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> > To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:21 AM > Subject: [KINCAID] Samuel Kincade Jr. > > > Dear Kincaid-listers, I was going through the warrants and surveys for > Butler County, PA trying to find surveys in Donegal Township that might be > adjacent to a Kincaid and this is what I found. This survey was orginally > in > Allegheny County, later in Butler County. Who is this Samuel Kincade junior > to? Is he the son of Samuel Kincaid married to Sarah Reed who died at the > seige of Fort Meigs? Or the son of Samuel Kincaid who married > Elizabeth Wilson? Subsequently, this Samuel Kincaid died in Butler County, > PA in 1840 leaving three son: > John, James, and Robert. This Samuel is of particular interest to Group C > Kincaids if he is the son of either of the above Samuel Kincaids. This land > is also connected to the Craig family and it could be that the John > Kincaid, > of Butler County who sold his donation land Isaac Craig could be the > brother > of this Samuel Kincade, Jr. > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > 1794 Samuel Kincade, Jr. Surveyed the 18 day of September 1794 for Jonathan > Craig, 401 acres of land with the allowance of six per cent &c by virtue of > his improvement began the 18 day of Sept. 1794 situate in District No. 8 > N.W. of the Allegheny River on the waters of the West Branch of Buffaloe > Creek. Stephen Gapen, D.S. To Daniel Brodhead, Esqr. Surveyor General. > Adjacent landowners: William Craig, Samuel Kincade, Jr., Peter Condon, > improved land.. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land > Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912C-177, p. 90. > > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------Tounsubscribe from the list, please send an email > toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotesin the subject and the body of the messageNo virus found in this > incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comVersion<http://www.avg.comversion/>: > 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 8/15/20085:58 AM >  To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message