This looks like an accurate vetting post on Sali's line. I believe that she has proven her connection back to James Kincaid and Elizabeth Church. Barb Van Hout ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sali" <eagledove77@sbcglobal.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:51 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Fw: Vetting Post for #11207 > > Vetting #11207 Group A set 1b to > James Kincaid and Elizabeth Church > > Researcher, Sally Standley, is granddaughter of Lola Mae Kincade Gibson > > Participant is son of John Rufus Kincade and Geraldine Maley > > Proven by: > > Obituary in Ohio newspaper the "Plain Dealer" Feb. 22, 1994 for John Rufus > Kincade naming participant as son and Geraldine as wife. > > Personal Knowledge: He is acknowledged by family as son of John Rufus > Kincade. The family is large and have continued to keep in touch through > generations. For many years a yearly fish fry and ice-cream social was > held near Pocahontas, AR where the whole family gathered while Lola Mae > and others shared family stories. Family photos of all generations back to > James & Susan Runnion are identified and in the possession of the > researcher. > __________________________________________ > > John Rufus Kincade b 22 Jan 1904 Pocahontas, Randolph Co. AR d 21 Feb > 1994 Lakewood, Ohio buried All Saints Cemetery, Lakeland, Ohio m Geraldine > Maley > > Son of James Perry Kincaid and Georgeann Hawkins > > Proven by: > > Ohio Death Certificate for John Rufus Kincade lists above birth date and > place and wife Geraldine Maley. Lists parents as James Perry Kincaid and > Georgeann Hawkins. > > Probate Ct. Record #129 Randolph Co., Arkansas, Estate of Perry Kincaid, > Administrator John Kincade. > "That Whereas, J. Perry Kincaid was killed by electricity, near > Pocahontas, Arkansas on or about the 23rd day of July, 1926, leaving > surviving him his widow Birdie Kincade, and two sons, and one daughter, > Hulett Kincade and John Kincade, and Lola Gibson, nee Kincade;" > > 1910 Randolph Co., AR Census > Perry Kincade, 28 AR married 2nd/4 years ago > Birdie, wife 32 > Hulit, son 10 > Lola, dau. 8 > John, son 6 > > Pocahontas Star Herald, March 16, 1906 > p. 1 "The following marriage license was issued since our last issue: > J. P. Kincade to Mrs. Birdie Million" > p. 40 "Perry Kincade and Mrs. Birdie Million were married at the home of > Rev. M.D. Bowers Sunday at 3 o'clock p.m." > > Arkansas Bond and Marriage license issued to James P. Kincade and Georgia > A. Hawkins April 1, 1899. Certificate of Marriage April 2, 1899. > Certificate of Record April 24, 1899. Bond signed by John R. A. Kincade > > Personal knowledge Lola Mae Kincade Gibson acknowledged John Rufus as her > brother and participant as his son. Lola said her mother's name was George > Ann Hawkins who died when her clothes caught fire when Lola was 3 years > old. Lola is buried in the same grave plot as George Ann in the Sutton > Cemetary. Lola's death certificate lists James Perry Kincade and Georgann > Hawkins as her parents, informant was her daughter (mother of researcher). > Researcher's 1st plane trip was with Grandma Lola to see "Uncle John, Aunt > Gerry and the kids". > _______________________________ > James Perry Kincade b 1880 d July 23, 1926 m 1st Georgia A. Hawkins April > 2 1899, 2nd Birdie H. Carter Million > > Son of John Rufus Adams Kincade and Mary Elizabeth Sutton > > Proven by: > > Arkansas Bond and Marriage License for John R. A. Kincade and Mary E. > Sutton, March 19, 1880: Certificate of Marriage 21 March 1880: Certificate > of Record 27 March 1880. Bond signed by David Million and John R.A. > Kincade. > > 1900 Census Pocahontas, Randolph, Arkansas > John R. Kinsade 40 Ark > Mary E. 38 > George D 16 > Martha M 13 > Marion T 10 > Luke 8 > Fred 3 > Ed 1/12 > > 1930 Roanoke twp, Randolph Co. AR Census > Mary E. Kincade 67 b AR parents b Tennessee, widow, married at 17 > Hershel 9 grandson b AR parents b AR > Thomas S Sutton 55 brother b AR > > Mary's obituary reads: Mrs. Mary Elizabeth Kincade, aged 84, lifetime > resident of Pocahontas, died at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Earl > Dawson, March 15. She was born March 18, 1863, a daughter of the late Mr. > and Mrs. Frank Sutton. Her husband, John Kincade, preceded her in death > several years ago. She was a member of the Free Will Baptist Church. > Funeral services were conducted at Sutton church Sunday at 2:30 p.m., by > the Revs. Ralph Staten and W. Harry Hunt. > She is survived by four sons, Geo., Ed, Luke and Fred Kincade; her > daughter and 37 grandchildren. > > > Personal knowledge: Lola Kincade Gibson told stories about staying with > Grandma Mary Elizabeth Sutton Kincaid. It was passed down in the family > that Mary E. found a cure that works well for colitis in babies. > Researcher's mother also stayed with her grandma Mary E. Sutton Kincade as > a child during summer months. Researcher personally knows as cousins a > son of George David Kincade, a granddaughter of Ed Kincade, and Hershel > Kincade, son of Fred Kincade among others. The children in the 1900 census > above were identified as Aunts and Uncles by Lola Mae. George David > Kincaid told his son about walking to Black Rock with his father who > worked there fixing tug boats and barges. They lived near the Black River. > > "Historical and Genealogical Abstracts from Randolph County Arkansas, > Newspaper of 1903 > Pocahontas Star Herald p. 42 > "Perry Kincade and family visited his father in Black river bottoms > Saturday night and Sunday" > > ____________________________ > John Rufus Adams Kincade b 4 Jan 1859 AR d 8 Dec 1903 Pocahontas, Randoph > Co. AR m 21 Mar 1880 Mary Elizabeth Sutton b 1863 dau of James F and Anne > Sutton > > Son of James P. Kincaid and Susannah Runnion > > Proven by: > > 1880 Census Randolph Co. AR > John Kingcad 21 AR parents b TN > Mary 17 AR parents b TN > (next door is James F. Sutton and Anne Sutton) > > 1870 Census Randolph Co. AR Demun twp Pocahontas post office > J. W. Collier 53 NC > Susannah 41 TN > V. Collier 6 TN (Victoria) > J.H. Kincaid 15 TN (note this should be G. H.) > Eliza Kincaid 12 TN > JOHN Kincaid 11 TN > W.H. Collier 12 TN > J.E. Collier 3 AR > > Randolph Co. AR Marriage Record > James W. Collier to Susan Kingkade filed Nov 18, 1862. Marriage Record > 27th day of Nov 1862. Certificate of Record 28th day of Nov 1862 > > Randolph Co. AR tax lists. > 1854 J.P. Kincade listed but has no assessment. > 1861 J.P. Kincade paid taxes on 120a > 1862 Susan Kincade paid taxes on 120a. J.P. is not on list > > 1860 Census Randolph Co. AR Roanoke Twp Blacks Ferry post office > (Extra census info will be needed in next link. Placed here to keep 1860 > AR census together in order to show locational relationship) > #1016 > Robert J. Newsom 43 TN Mill Right > Elizabeth 22 TN > Jerome W 5 TN > Margaret 4 TN > James 3 TN > Amanda 1 TN > > #1018 > James Kinkade 38 TN carpenter > Susan 26 TN > Lucinda 9 TN > George H. 7 TN > > #1019 > James F(rank). Sutton 31 TN > Anne 28 TN > Lucile 8 TN > Wm A. 6 TN > George W 5 TN > Francis M 2 TN > > 1860 Lawrence Co. AR Census (borders Randolph Co. near Blackrock) > #873 (note Samuel is actually last name in #872 but 1st name in #873 is 5 > yr old female with last name of previous family) > Samuel B Kincade 27 TN > Jane 39 > Rufus 22 TN > Mary A 18 > James R 7 > William G 7 > Elizabeth J 1 > > Samuel B Kincade married Jane Maxwell 22 Apr 1857 Lawrence Co. AR. No > divorce record from Barbara (see below) has been found. > Samuel B Kinkade and Rufus A Kinkade enlisted in the Confederate army in > Pocahontas, AR. Samuel died May 20, 1862. Probate records list his heirs > as James R and William G Maxwell and Elizabeth J. Kinkade. "Father and > Mother of said minors are both deceased." > > Letter written Oct 26, 1883 by "Nannie" Paddock of San Francisco to cousin > "Ellen" in Arkansas. Nannie is Amanda Newsom above. Ellen is Lucinda > Kincade Million, dau of Susan Runnion Kincade Collier. Nannie asks for > news about the family including Aunt Susan, cousin Henry, cousin George > Henry, cousin Johnny, "Vick" and Uncle Rufus. She mentions Mother, sister > Margery, and brother Jerome. > (Explanation of relationships for above) > > > ______________________________ > James Perry b c1828 TN d 1861-2 Pocahontas, Randolph Co. AR m June 8, 1850 > Lewis Co. TN Susannah Runnion dau of Thomas & Parthena Runnion. > > Son of James Kincaid and Elizabeth Church > > Marriage book Lewis Co. TN > James P. Kincaid and Susannah Runnion 8 June 1850 no return filed > Elizabeth A Kincaid and Robert Joe Newsom 17 Jan 1853 > Samuel B Kincaid and Barbary Runnions 16 April 1853 > > Alexander Kincade sold 174+acres in Lewis Co.TN to Robert J. Newsom 14 > July 1853. Property included a mill. No explanation of how 21 yr old > Alexander acquired the property. > 1850 Census Lewis Co. TN Civil Dist #5 August 29 > James Kincade 53 cabinet maker KY > Elizabeth 45 TN > James P 22 cabinet maker TN > Alexander 18 cabinet maker TN > Samuel B 17 cabinet maker TN > Elizabeth A 15 TN > Rufus A 13 TN > Sarah P 11 TN > Rachel C 8 TN > Martha E 4 TN > William L (sic T). 1 TN > > 1850 Census Lewis Co. TN Civil Dist #3 Sept 1850 > #329 > Thomas Runyan 74 > Parthenia 50 > Barbary 16 > Nancy 7 > Dorathy 3 > > #330 > Winny Runyan 26 F TN > John McHenry Runyan 2 TN > Susanah Runyan 17 TN > Lucinda Runyan 2/12 TN > > In 1869 Winny Runyan signed a deposition presented in court that she had > lived in Lewis Co. since it was formed "I have never been married. I have > five children." Barbara Kincaid is called as witness and did not come in > the same court case. > > 1860 Census Lewis Co. TN > #25 > Winney Runnions 36 > Jane 17 > John M 12 > Thomas 10 > Joseph 5 > James P 3 > Mary J 7/12 > William A 7/12 > > #27 > Thomas Runnions 77 > Parthena 60 > Barbara 25 > Sarah 12 > Mary 9 > John 8/12 > > #29 > James Kingkaid 65 TN (ditto mark runs down the page) > Elizabeth 58 TN > Rachel 18 > Martha 16 > Taylor 15 > James C. 5 > > James C. Kincade and his mother Barbara Kincade are buried next to each > other in Sheboss Cemetery, NW Maury Co. TN. According to this family > Samuel disappeared and Barbara never found out what happened to him. > > _________________________ > James Kincaid b c 1795-1797 KY, TN or NC d c1861 Lewis Co. TN m 1822-25 > TN Elizabeth Church dau. of Joshua and Priscilla Church. > > MARTHA ELEANDER KINCADE (see 1850 Lewis Co. TN census for James Kincaid & > Elizabeth) > > Record of Deaths published in the Maury County Historical Society, > republished in Historic Maury, 1987 included: Martha E. Pinion, white, > female, widowed, b. 9 June 1845, d. 18 May 1927, aged 81-11-9; dau. of > Jas. Kincaid and Elizabeth Church, both born North Carolina. Cause of > death was ureamia. Inf. given by Mrs. Joe Dunn, Mt. Pleasant, burial > Columbia. > > > > Son of unknown > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message