First let me construct a lineage of John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township's warrant of 1734. 1734 John Kinkaid , [37382] Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA warranted 300 acres in Sadsbury Township,  Chester County, PA, dated Feb. 4, 1734. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 24, p. 83. 1734 John Kinkaid [37382] , Hugh Cowen, William McNaught, James Wilson, Richard Martin adjacent land owners to John Davidson, 250 acres and the customary allowance. Situate in West Caln in the County of Chester, surveyed by warrant of the 29th of January 1734, the 12th October then next ensuing.  By Jno. Taylor. Survey #265.  Chester County Historical Society, Kincaid file. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912,Vol. D-36, p. 186. 1735 John Kinkead, [37382] 200 acres and allowance in Sadsbury in Chester County surveyed by warrant of the 4th day of February 1734, the 12th of October 1735.  By Jno. Taylor.  Adjacent land owners: vacant land, Hugh Cowan, John Davidson, Widow Martin.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, C-107, Vol. p. 260. 1744 John Kinkead, [37382] of Sadsbury Township, May 29, 1744,   “It is ordered that the said Township of West Caln shall be bounded and Limited as followeth viz Beginning at a Black oak by the West Branch of Brandywine Creek at the northwest corner of Joseph Darlington’s Land, . . . thence along a line between the land of the said Wm. Ferguson and Adam Leech and the land of Robert Sandford to the said Sandfords south West corner black oak and from thence along the southern boundaries of the Lands of the said Robert Sandford, John Williams, Hugh Cowen & John Kinkead [37382] to a Black oak at the South East corner of the said Kinkead’s land from thence due east to the western branch of Brandywine Creek thence up the same to the first mentioned black oak. It is further ordered that the Plantations of Walter Guilkey, William Ferguson, and Adam Leech and all other seats andImprovements lying on the Valley Mountain to the south of the Southern boundaries of the said Township of West Caln shall Belong to the Township of Sadsbury in the County of Chester and are hereby Annexed to the same.” History of Chester County, Pennsylvania, Futhey & Cope, p. 168. 1745 John Kinkead [37382] of Sadsbury Township, patent returned 200 acres in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA, December 10, 1745, warrantee, John Kincaid, Feb. 4, 1734, 300 acres. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, p. 29, p. 105. 1745 John Kinkead [37382] patented 200 acres Dec. 10, 1745, warrantee, John Kinkead, Feb. 4, 1734, Chester County, PA. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT INDEX, A and AA SERIES, 1684-1781 p. 165 1745 John Kinkead, [37382] Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA, yeoman, received 50 pounds mortgage for 200 acres,  improved on December 11, 1745, date of satisfaction, December 10, 1755. Mortgages of the General Loan Office Province of  Pennsylvania, 1724-1756. Lancaster Mennonite Historical Society, Lancaster, PA. In 1771 Charles Kinkead received this above parcel per the will of John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. 1781    Charles Kinkead [000019] died on December 29, 1781, age 45,  in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA, buried in  the old "New Side" cemetery.  History of Upper Octorara Presbyterian Church, Chester County, Pennsylvania, By J. Smith Futhey, Esq., 1870. Appendix I, List of Persons Buried in the Old “New Side” Graveyard, On the farm late of Cyrus Cooper, deceased, so far as the same are marked by gravestones.   The list states Dec. 29, 1782, but letters of administration for his estate were issued on Jan. 17, 1782.   http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/chester/cemeteries/uoctorara.txt 1787 Charles Kinkead, [000019] deceased, land late of, adjoining land warranted to Caleb Way, West Caln Township, Chester County, PA June 1, 1787, 141 acres, 53 perches, surveyed May 25, 1811, other adjacent land owners, John Withrow, Isaac Yearsley, late  John Ramsay, Thomas Mee, formerly, Michael Baldridge, and Caleb Way.  The above draft describes a tract of land situate in  West Caln Township, Chester County, PA, containing 141 acres, 53 perches & allowance of six per cent.  Note, I am unable to ascertain how long the above described tract of land has been improved.  The old settlers adjoining are principally dead and removed.  It is rough hilly & somewhat broken, which renders it out of my power to form a correct opinion from observation.  I must therefore refer you for information to the application in the secretary’s office.  Andrew Porter, Esquire, Surveyor General.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, D-33, p. 56. 1801 Jane Kincaid, [000019] Hannah Kinkead, [000019] Mary Kinkead’s husband, Isaac Wentz (Jane, Hannah, & Mary Kinkead daughters of  Charles Kinkead, [000019] deceased, late of Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA, Mary deceased) partitioned of 200 acres willed to Charles Kinkead by his father’s estate, a tract of land John Kinkead received pursuant to a patent, dated,  December 10, 1745 from John Penn, Thomas Penn, & Richard Penn, Platt Book A, Vol. 15, p. 273. Charles Kinkead [000019]  having no male heir land went to his daughters, June 13, 1801, recorded January 28, 1802. Deed Book, Vol. T2, p. 772. See also same deed  of partition, June 13, 1801, Deed Book, Vol. V2, p. 105. 1801 Jane Kincaid [000019] to Isaac Wentz a lease for a water course in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA, June 13, 1801.   Deed Book Vol. D3, p. 208. 1849    Jane Kinkead, [000019] born 1779, daughter of Charles Kinkead [000019] & Hannah Ramsey, died in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA on June 12, 1849, buried in buried in the old "New Side" cemetery. Chester County Historical Society, West Chester, PA, Kincaid file;   History of Upper Octorara Presbyterian Church, Chester County, Pennsylvania, By J. Smith Futhey, Esq., 1870. Appendix I, List of Persons     Buried in the Old “New Side” Graveyard, on the farm late of Cyrus Cooper, deceased, so far as the same are marked by gravestones. 1849 Jane Kinkead, [000019] daughter of Charles Kinkead [000019] & Hannah Ramsey, of  Chester County, PA, will proved June 21, 1849.  Bequeathed the plantation upon which she lived to her nephew John T. Wentz per agreement of July 23, 1846. $50. to Celinda Wentz, daughter of deceased nephew Samuel R. Wentz.  The remaining property to be divided into six shares: to the children of deceased nephew  Charles Wentz, 1 share; to the children of George Wentz, 1 share; to nephew Jeremiah M. Wentz, 1 share; to nephew Isaac Wentz,  1 share; to niece Hannah Goss?, 1 share. Witnesses: John M. Withrow, Thomas Martin. Chester County Historical Society, West Chester, PA,  Kincaid file. Next I will detail the West Caln property. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:25:37 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Michael Kincaid line was Re: Kincaids in Westmoreland County, PA I have been reviewing what has been posted and still have much to understand about the linkages made. Although no stated link is given, I can see how one, using a timeline, comes to the conclusion that Michael Kincaid of West Caln township, Chester County became the Michael Kincaid of Hamiltonban township, York County.  Although no stated link is given, I can see how one, using a timeline, comes to believe that the Michael and Samuel Kincaid of Crawford County were the cousins of mentioned in Samuel Kincaid's 1776 Will. However, much is left accounted for.  Samuel's brother John is unaccounted for.  We also don't know for sure if the Michael Jr. mentioned in Samuel's 1776 Will was the son of Michael or another brother of Michael Sr. We also don't know for sure who the father was of the Samuel who made the Will in 1776.  Michael Sr. appears to have had at least four sons based on the 1790 census.  I don't see this all accounted for.  Overall, I don't see the link to Sadsbury John other than proximity.  I think that Sadsbury John is not the same person as West Caln John - the latter being who Michael ties to.  Am I missing some better evidence? I am tempted to speculate that Michael, Robert of East Caln, and Samuel of West Caln tie to the John and James who were warranted land in 1729.  It is also tempting to speculate that Sadsbury John came later (circa 1745) when he got his warrant for 200 acres.  I am also tempted to speculate that Robert the weaver of West Caln is Sadsbury John's son. Robert of East Caln would be the carpenter.  What are your thoughts? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Kincaids in Westmoreland County, PA > Norman Kincaide > I believe Samuel Kinkead who died in Crawford County, PA in 1829 was the > son of Michael Kincaid. > I think Samuel preceeded his father in exploring or migrating from > Hamilton's Bann Township to Allegheny then to Crawford County, PA. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:31 AM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kinkead's Sadsbury Township property [snip] > 1745 John Kinkead [37382] of Sadsbury Township, patent returned 200 acres > in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA, December 10, 1745, warrantee, > John Kincaid, Feb. 4, 1734, 300 acres. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, > Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, p. 29, p. 105. Thank you for this as I had overlooked the link between the 1745 patent and the 1734 warrant. I don`t think you will disagree in that the bulk of this grant was in Sadsbury Township, even after West Caln township was formed. After all, Charles was being taxed in Sadsbury township for 200 acres, apparently starting in 1765. Peter