Thanks, Margie. I will correct the e-mail address for both and enter the ancestor information for 15550 in his line. In the comment column I will put >William for him but need to know which son 15550 comes from so I can do the same in his comment column. 15550 is not vetted. I have attached a vetting format if you would like to go through the vetting process. If you decide to do this for either participant, it works best if you fill out the form as best you can and return it to me. I can then go over it with an eye to clarity and form. It really helps to have someone not familiar with the family try to follow your line of reasoning before it goes to the list. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie von Marenholtz" <Dieckhorst@q.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Another son of 15550 line to participate > My email address will be used for 130404; as well as 15550, which needs to > be updated to dieckhorst@q.com). The actual contributor is Harry Keith > Kinkade, b. 1929. Keith told me that he has macular degeneration and that > is why he no longer does genealogy. He did all the early James Woodburn > Kinkade research in the 1960's and 70's. We have just resumed contact > after > an approximate 20 year lapse. I have talked to him about getting > documentation on Keith's grandfather William. The state of Iowa refused > to > let me have the death record as I was not a direct descendant. It is > amazing how some states don't care what my relationship, if any is, and > others want only a direct descendant to get a record. Unfortunately, > most > of my Kinkades were in states that don't post every vital record online! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Another son of 15550 line to participate > > >> Margie is this kit #130404? >> I will need to know who is contact and have permission to put the e-mail >> address on the chart. >> >> We have had several new orders for tests in the last few days, at least >> some >> of which are long sought after lines. I am hoping that lineage and >> contact >> info will be available by the time the results are returned. I would be >> happy to send vetting formats to any who wish to start on that process. I >> am >> always happy to help (time permitting) anyone with organizing their >> information for clarity and to present the strongest arguement possible. >> Please contact me off list. seleaml@actionnet.net if you would like a >> format. Please include your kit number so I know for sure who I am >> talking >> with. >> >> Barb, thank you for your input on the vetting post for #11207 A-1b. I do >> appreciate all those that take the time to look through the posts and >> respond. It is so easy to miss something that may not be as clear as it >> should be. With many eyes tracing the line we are more likely to end up >> with >> solid links. Confirmation as well as questions are welcome contributions. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Margie von Marenholtz" <Dieckhorst@q.com> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:10 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Another son of 15550 line to participate >> >> >>> Sue: The grandson of James Woodburn Kinkade's son William has agreed to >>> participate in the DNA Project. Keith Kinkade was an avid Kinkade >>> researcher in the 1960's and 1970's and was the driving force behind my >>> own >>> Kinkade research. I am working on ordering a 67 marker kit for him now. >>> Margie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] another John in Carlisle >>> >>> >>>> In looking at the upgrade to 67 results, there is a possible pattern >>>> emerging at marker 50 (413b) and marker 60 (446). It is still too early >>>> to >>>> tell and both markers seem to have a parallel mutation but there is a >>>> possible path with the 22 at marker 50 occuring 1st followed by the 14 >>>> at >>>> marker 60. Set 4's line would take off from #2519 (who has both >>>> mutations) >>>> at marker 19 (437) with a mutation to 14. If the pattern holds with >>>> further >>>> upgrades this means that 15550 would not find a common ancestor in the >>>> colonies with any current project participant as 2519's ancestor >>>> Samuel/Johanna Walch was b 1811 and d 1885 in Ireland and 2519's >>>> ancestor >>>> James Woodburn/Margaret Kuhn's was also b 1811. Finding another >>>> participant >>>> from James Woodburn's line (preferably from a different son) would help >>>> confirm or eliminate mutations within this line and give us a better >>>> picture >>>> of where he fits in. >>>> >>>> Sue Liedtke >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'M NOT UP TO SNUFF ON THIS SINCE MY CONNECTION TO JOHN THE SHOPKEEPER >>>>> OF >>>>> CARLISLE APPEARS TO BE A FORLORN HOPE, BUT THIS JOHN IS OF THE AGE >>>>> ALSO >>>>> TO >>>>> BE THE SHOPKEEPER'S GRANDSON THROUGH ANDREW. SO I LOOKED BACK AT MY >>>>> RECORDS AND FOUND REFERENCE TO "DEBORAH" AS HIS WIFE, AND THEN FOUND >>>>> THIS: >>>> >>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message