This is attempt, I lost track. Sincerely Norman Kincaide I believe Samuel Kinkead who died in Crawford County, PA in 1829 was the son of Michael Kincaid. I think Samuel preceeded his father in exploring or migrating from Hamilton's Bann Township to Allegheny then to Crawford County, PA. I believe the Samuel Kinkead below with another male over 16 is the Samuel Kinkead who ends up in Butler County, the other male could be John Kincaid, the Artillery Artificer.  Samuel also shows up on the militia list in 1793. 1790 Samuel Kinkead, [000013] Washington Township, Westmoreland County, PA, 2 males over 16. USFC, p. 268. 1793 Samuel Kinkad [000013] on muster roll of Capt. Jeremiah Murry’s Company, Westmoreland County, PA Militia, pay commenced October 11, 1793, muster roll reported December 13, 1793.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 5, p. 710. 1793 Samuel Kinkead, [000013]  private, on pay roll of Capt. Jeremiah Murry’s Company, Westmoreland County, PA Militia from  October 11-December 7, 1793, paid $11.40, pay roll dated, January 24, 1794. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 5, pp. 708, 739, 741, 768. 1794 Samuel Kinkaid, [000013] private, served from June 4 to August 13, in the rifle company, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Regiment,  Westmoreland County, PA Militia, discharged with honor, August 13, 1794. Signed: Capt. J. Elliot. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 5, p. 809. York County, PA 1795    Michael Kincaid [000004] taxed in Hamilton Bann Township, York County, PA for 165 acres, 3 horses, 2 cows, amount 315,  tax 1.1.6. York County, PA Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, PA Archives. 1795    Samuel Kincaid [000004] taxed in Hamiton Bann Township, York County, PA as a single man at 7.6.  York County, PA Tax  Record Roll 5220, York County, PA Archives 1800 Michael Kincaid [000004] & Elizabeth his wife of Hamilton Bann Township, York County, PA sold to Andrew Brown of  Hamiltons Bann Township, York County, PA 180 acres & 53 perches for 1000 pounds, the parcel being composed of 2 tracts the 1st being purchased on April 13, 1767, the 2nd on Dec. 30, 1797, sold and recorded on Sept. 22, 1800.  York County, PA Deed Book A, p. 142, Chester  County Historical Society, West Chester, PA, Kincaid file. 1801 Michael Kinkaid [000004] had a letter remaining at the Pittsburgh Post Office on January 1, 1801. Pennsylvania Gazette Abstracts, 1797-1803, Vol. 2, p. 259. 1805     Samuel Kincaid [000004] married Elizabeth Dickey in Crawford County, PA.  Email from Linda Bischoff to PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com  April 18, 2003. 1809 Michael Kincaid [000004] taxed in Shenango Township, Crawford County, PA for 400 acres at 250.  Crawford County, PA Historical Society,  Tax Record 1800-1817. 1810 Samuel Kincade, [000004] Fairfield Township, Crawford County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 3 females under 10, 1 female 26-45. USFC, 412.. 1810 Michael Kinkaid [000004] taxed in Shenango Township, Crawford County, PA for 100 acres at 69.  Crawford         County, PA Historical Society, Crawford County, PA Tax Lists, 1800-1817. 1813    James Harrison Kincaid [000004] born to Michael Kincaid [000004] & Nancy Brickman in Espyville, Crawford County, PA, died in 1890 in  Ashtabula County, OH.  Email from Lyn to PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com , August 2, 2001. I believe the above Michael Kincaid is the son of Michael Kincaid of Hamilton's Bann Township, York County, PA. I think Michael Kincaid senior died between 1801 and 1809. 1814 Michael Kincaid [000004] taxed in Shenango Township, Crawford County, PA for 100 acres at $75.00, 200 acres at $100.00, 1 cow  at $10.00.  Erie County Historical Society, Erie, PA, Crawford County, PA Tax Lists 1800-1817, p. 179. Crawford County, PA Federal Census 1820 Michal Kincade, [000004] Shenango Township, Crawford County, PA, 1 male 26-44,1 male under 10, 2 females under 10, 1 female  16-25. USFC, p. 54A. 1820 Samuel Kincade, [000004] Meadville, Crawford County, PA 1 male over 44, 3 females under 10, 3 females 10-15, 1 female 26-44.  USFC, p. 48. 1829 Samuel Kincaid, [000004] (1774-1829) deceased, letters of administration were issued to Joseph Dickey, executor on Dec. 11, 1829,  inventory filed, January 6, 1830.  Crawford County, PA Court House, Will Book A-69. I believe this is the same Samuel Kinkead referenced as the son of Michael Kinkead, cousin to Samuel Kinkead of Fawn Township, York County, PA.  who died in 1779 and was in Continental Service from 1776.  He left a 100 acres to Michael's son Samuel on Petter's Creek near Pittsburgh.  I think the Mary Kinkead in the will below is the Mary Kinkead who has two lots in Bedford Town, Bedford County, PA and later has a warrant for 100 acres. I'm still not sure who this brother John Kinkead is.  He could be the Artillery Artificer who died in Butler County, PA in 1814.  Too bad he didn't say where the 50 and the other 100 acres were located.  It reads like it was one parcel.  But then he specifically references the 100 acres on Petter's Creek but it sounds like he had more than 100 acres there.  In the name of God, Amen, I Samuel Kinkaid [000004] being in perfect health of body and of sound   memory, blessed be God this twenty sixth day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand seven   hundred and seventy six, make and publish this my last will and testament.  In manner following that is   to say first, I give to my brother John, [000004] fifty acres of any land where it may not hurt the place    but most convenient for both places.  Next, I give to my sister Mary [000004] one hundred acres of   any place.  Next I give to my cousin Samuel Kinkaid, [000004] son to Michael Kinkaid, [000004]   one hundred acres of my land near Pitchburgh  (This was difficult to read and could have been Pittsburgh)   on Petters Creek.  Next I give to my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] all my chattels and goods he    has now in his possesion.  And I do make and ordain my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] to be my   whole executor of this my last will and testament in trust for the intention and purpose in this my will   contained and in witness where of I the  said Samuel Kinkaid [000004] have to this my last will and   testament set my hand and seal the day and year above mentioned.    Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us. Samuel Kinkaid [000004] Hugh Artens John Shultz Venango County, PA Federal Census 1840 Michael Kincade, [000004] Canal Township, Venango County, PA 1 male 60-70. USFC, 102. Sincerely Norman Kincaide

The name Michael has always been a flag for me as it is not common with the early Kincaids. Michael and Samuel are strong names in Grant Kinkead's (sample 2519) County Limerick Kinkeads. Grant and sample 15550 are quite close. Sample 15550 is of the James Woodburn Kinkead line. I don't think this is a coincidence. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Kincaids in Westmoreland County, PA > This is attempt, I lost track. > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > I believe Samuel Kinkead who died in Crawford County, PA in 1829 was the > son of Michael Kincaid. > I think Samuel preceeded his father in exploring or migrating from > Hamilton's Bann Township to Allegheny then to Crawford County, PA. > I believe the Samuel Kinkead below with another male over 16 is the Samuel > Kinkead who ends up in Butler County, the other male could be John > Kincaid, the Artillery Artificer. Samuel also shows up on the militia list > in 1793. > 1790 Samuel Kinkead, [000013] Washington Township, Westmoreland County, > PA, 2 males over 16. USFC, p. 268. > 1793 Samuel Kinkad [000013] on muster roll of Capt. Jeremiah Murry’s > Company, Westmoreland County, PA Militia, pay commenced October 11, 1793, > muster roll reported December 13, 1793. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 5, > p. 710. > 1793 Samuel Kinkead, [000013] private, on pay roll of Capt. Jeremiah Murry’s > Company, Westmoreland County, PA Militia from October 11-December 7, 1793, > paid $11.40, pay roll dated, January 24, 1794. Pennsylvania Archives, s. > 6, v. 5, pp. 708, 739, 741, 768. > 1794 Samuel Kinkaid, [000013] private, served from June 4 to August 13, in > the rifle company, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Regiment, Westmoreland County, PA > Militia, discharged with honor, August 13, 1794. Signed: Capt. J. Elliot. > Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 5, p. 809. > York County, PA > > 1795 Michael Kincaid [000004] taxed in Hamilton Bann Township, York > County, PA for 165 acres, 3 horses, 2 cows, amount 315, tax 1.1.6. York > County, PA Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, PA Archives. > 1795 Samuel Kincaid [000004] taxed in Hamiton Bann Township, York County, > PA as a single man at 7.6. York County, PA Tax Record Roll 5220, York > County, PA Archives > 1800 Michael Kincaid [000004] & Elizabeth his wife of Hamilton Bann > Township, York County, PA sold to Andrew Brown of Hamiltons Bann Township, > York County, PA 180 acres & 53 perches for 1000 pounds, the parcel being > composed of 2 tracts the 1st being purchased on April 13, 1767, the 2nd on > Dec. 30, 1797, sold and recorded on Sept. 22, 1800. York County, PA Deed > Book A, p. 142, Chester County Historical Society, West Chester, PA, > Kincaid file. > 1801 Michael Kinkaid [000004] had a letter remaining at the Pittsburgh > Post Office on January 1, 1801. Pennsylvania Gazette Abstracts, 1797-1803, > Vol. 2, p. 259. > 1805 Samuel Kincaid [000004] married Elizabeth Dickey in Crawford County, > PA. Email from Linda Bischoff to PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com April 18, 2003. > 1809 Michael Kincaid [000004] taxed in Shenango Township, Crawford County, > PA for 400 acres at 250. Crawford County, PA Historical Society, Tax > Record 1800-1817. > 1810 Samuel Kincade, [000004] Fairfield Township, Crawford County, PA, 1 > male 26-45, 3 females under 10, 1 female 26-45. USFC, 412.. > 1810 Michael Kinkaid [000004] taxed in Shenango Township, Crawford County, > PA for 100 acres at 69. Crawford County, PA Historical Society, Crawford > County, PA Tax Lists, 1800-1817. > 1813 James Harrison Kincaid [000004] born to Michael Kincaid [000004] & > Nancy Brickman in Espyville, Crawford County, PA, died in 1890 in > Ashtabula County, OH. Email from Lyn to PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com , August > 2, 2001. > I believe the above Michael Kincaid is the son of Michael Kincaid of > Hamilton's Bann Township, York County, PA. > I think Michael Kincaid senior died between 1801 and 1809. > > 1814 Michael Kincaid [000004] taxed in Shenango Township, Crawford County, > PA for 100 acres at $75.00, 200 acres at $100.00, 1 cow at $10.00. Erie > County Historical Society, Erie, PA, Crawford County, PA Tax Lists > 1800-1817, p. 179. > Crawford County, PA Federal Census > 1820 Michal Kincade, [000004] Shenango Township, Crawford County, PA, 1 > male 26-44,1 male under 10, 2 females under 10, 1 female 16-25. USFC, p. > 54A. > 1820 Samuel Kincade, [000004] Meadville, Crawford County, PA 1 male over > 44, 3 females under 10, 3 females 10-15, 1 female 26-44. USFC, p. 48. > 1829 Samuel Kincaid, [000004] (1774-1829) deceased, letters of > administration were issued to Joseph Dickey, executor on Dec. 11, 1829, > inventory filed, January 6, 1830. Crawford County, PA Court House, Will > Book A-69. > I believe this is the same Samuel Kinkead referenced as the son of Michael > Kinkead, cousin to Samuel Kinkead of Fawn Township, York County, PA. who > died in 1779 and was in Continental Service from 1776. He left a 100 acres > to Michael's son Samuel on Petter's Creek near Pittsburgh. I think the > Mary Kinkead in the will below is the Mary Kinkead who has two lots in > Bedford Town, Bedford County, PA and later has a warrant for 100 acres. > I'm still not sure who this brother John Kinkead is. He could be the > Artillery Artificer who died in Butler County, PA in 1814. Too bad he > didn't say where the 50 and the other 100 acres were located. It reads > like it was one parcel. But then he specifically references the 100 acres > on Petter's Creek but it sounds like he had more than 100 acres there. > In the name of God, Amen, I Samuel Kinkaid [000004] being in perfect > health of body and of sound > memory, blessed be God this twenty sixth day of March in the year of our > Lord one thousand seven > hundred and seventy six, make and publish this my last will and testament. > In manner following that is > to say first, I give to my brother John, [000004] fifty acres of any land > where it may not hurt the place > but most convenient for both places. Next, I give to my sister Mary > [000004] one hundred acres of > any place. Next I give to my cousin Samuel Kinkaid, [000004] son to > Michael Kinkaid, [000004] > one hundred acres of my land near Pitchburgh (This was difficult to read > and could have been Pittsburgh) > on Petters Creek. Next I give to my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] all my > chattels and goods he > has now in his possesion. And I do make and ordain my cousin Michael > Kinkaid [000004] to be my > whole executor of this my last will and testament in trust for the > intention and purpose in this my will > contained and in witness where of I the said Samuel Kinkaid [000004] have > to this my last will and > testament set my hand and seal the day and year above mentioned. > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us. > Samuel Kinkaid [000004] > Hugh Artens > John Shultz > Venango County, PA Federal Census > 1840 Michael Kincade, [000004] Canal Township, Venango County, PA 1 male > 60-70. USFC, 102. > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide

I have been reviewing what has been posted and still have much to understand about the linkages made. Although no stated link is given, I can see how one, using a timeline, comes to the conclusion that Michael Kincaid of West Caln township, Chester County became the Michael Kincaid of Hamiltonban township, York County. Although no stated link is given, I can see how one, using a timeline, comes to believe that the Michael and Samuel Kincaid of Crawford County were the cousins of mentioned in Samuel Kincaid's 1776 Will. However, much is left accounted for. Samuel's brother John is unaccounted for. We also don't know for sure if the Michael Jr. mentioned in Samuel's 1776 Will was the son of Michael or another brother of Michael Sr. We also don't know for sure who the father was of the Samuel who made the Will in 1776. Michael Sr. appears to have had at least four sons based on the 1790 census. I don't see this all accounted for. Overall, I don't see the link to Sadsbury John other than proximity. I think that Sadsbury John is not the same person as West Caln John - the latter being who Michael ties to. Am I missing some better evidence? I am tempted to speculate that Michael, Robert of East Caln, and Samuel of West Caln tie to the John and James who were warranted land in 1729. It is also tempting to speculate that Sadsbury John came later (circa 1745) when he got his warrant for 200 acres. I am also tempted to speculate that Robert the weaver of West Caln is Sadsbury John's son. Robert of East Caln would be the carpenter. What are your thoughts? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Kincaids in Westmoreland County, PA > Norman Kincaide > I believe Samuel Kinkead who died in Crawford County, PA in 1829 was the > son of Michael Kincaid. > I think Samuel preceeded his father in exploring or migrating from > Hamilton's Bann Township to Allegheny then to Crawford County, PA.