I have pondered that for a long time.  Who was he junior to?  I thought maybe John Kincaid the patriarch, but I think his John Jr. is accounted for.  And John Kinkead, Merchant of Carlisle's John Jr. is accounted for.  John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township's John Jr. is accounted for in Bart Township, Lancaster County, died in 1811. There is a John Kinkead in Chester County: 1768 John Kincade, inmate, taxed in East Nottingham Township, Chester County, PA. Provincial Tax of 1768. 1769 John Kincade, weaver, taxed in East Nottingham Township, Chester County, PA for 1 horse, 1 cow.                  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 9, p. 573. 1771 John Kinkead, labourer, taxed in East Nottingham Township, Chester County, PA for 100 acres, 1 horse,1         cow, 2 sheep.   Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 9, p. 742. 1772 John Kinkaid taxed in West Nottingham Township, Chester County, PA, payed 5 pounds rent to Phebe             Meshman, 1 cow. 1773 John Kinkead, East Nottingham Township, posted a recognizance bond at Chester County Court of Quarter         Sessions, February 1773 for James Campbell. Chester County Archives & Records Service, Index to                 Quarter Sessions Indictment Records, 1681-1778, K. 1773 John Kinkade, victim/complainant, riot, February 1773, against Robert Criswell, East Nottingham Township,             Chester County, PA. Chester County Archives & Records Service, Index to Quarter Sessions Indictment         Records, 1681-1778, C. Then there is this warrant that I have previously attributed to John Kinkead Jr. son of John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township, giving his son John this warrant.  I could be wrong and this could be the father of the John Kincaid in Yohogania County and Samuel Kinkead (died 1779). 1772 John Kinkead [000012] received warrant #304 for 70 acres in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA, May 21,         1772.  A Lancaster County, PA deed, Deed Book D, Vol. 6, p. 27 stated that John Kinkead of Bart                     Township, Lancaster County,  PA was the son of John Kinkead, Esq, who had been granted the Bart                 Township land on a warrant and had given it to his son.     Pennsylvania State Archives 1772 John Kinkead.  [000012] By virtue of a warrant bearing date the 21st day of May 1772, surveyed the 26th             day of August unto John Kinkead the above described tract of land situate in Bart Township in ye County of         Lancaster containing eighty-five acres & sixty-six perches of land besides the allowance of six pcent.                  Jasper Scull.  Adjacent land owners: Abraham Beam, Jacob Graff, Thomas Smith, George Merkel, Jacob             Foutz, Michael Wether.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, COPIED                     SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. C-161, p. 233. One of the adjacent land owners is Abraham Beam.  John Kinkead served with Jacob Beam in the Washington County, PA Militia.  But if this is so it still doesn't explain to me who this other John Kinkead is?  He could be the father of John and Samuel (Will 1776-1779).  See also: 1763 Elizabeth Kinkaid married Jacob Beam, June 22, 1763 in Lancaster County, PA. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:06:31 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of Yohogania County---1778 Who was the John Kincaid, Sr?  Was he also in Lancaster County, PA? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of Yohogania County---1778 Good job, Barb! I beleive this is John Kinkead Jr. formerly of Lancaster County, who applied for 300 acres of New Purchase land in 1769, later of Washington and Allegheny Counties, he died in 1833 and filed his pension application: 1833 John Kincaid, [000004] of Jefferson Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania John Kincaid, Penn. S. 22,345 22.660 Pittsburgh Penn. John Kincaid, [000004] Pittsburgh in the State of Penn. was a Private in the Co. commanded by Captain Minton of the Regt. commanded by Col. Beelor in the Penn. Line for two years. Inscribed on the Roll of Penn. Pittsburgh at the rate of 80 Dollars 00 cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831. Certificate of Pension issued the 28 day of Nov. 1833 and sent to E. Simpson, Pittsburgh, Penn. Arrears to the 4th of September, 1833 $200.00 ? allowance ending 4 March 1834 40.00 240.00 Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 Recorded by Wm. ? Palmer, Clerk Book E, Vol. five, page 82 War Department Pension Office 15th Nov. 1833 Sir The evidence in support of your ? and the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules and the subscribed notes you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace (thus }). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with the, and you will by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim. A Statement, showing the Service of John Kincaid Period of Service Duration Rank Name & Rank of Field officers age at present 1 May 1778 6 months Prvt. Capt. Minton 85 years, Pa. Capt. Beeler 1 May 1779 6 months Prvt. Capt. Wright 1 May 1780 6 months Prvt. Capt. Cox Capt. Mitchel 1 May 1781 7 months Prvt. Cunningham I am, respectfully, Your obedient servant J.L. Edwards, Commissioner of Pensions Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:36:37 PM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of Yohogania County---1778 Who was this John Kincaid in Yohogania County in the late 1770's? Annals of the Carnegie Museum: V. 1- By Carnegie Museum, Carnegie Museum of Natural History Published by Published by authority of the Board of Trustees of the Carnegie Institute, 1903 Item notes: v.2 1903-04 Original from the University of Michigan Digitized Oct 17, 2005 http://books.google.com/books?id=IUh0iLoL6ggC Minutes of court for YOHOGANIA COUNTY p. 252 August 25, 1778 Review of a Road from Peters Creek to the house of Robert Henderson beginning at the lower end of Zadock Wrights field from thence following the Ridge to Jacob Barrackmans land leaving him on the right hand from thence to Robert Hendersons. Returned by the reviewers and ordered to be confirmed. Ordered that William Bruce be appointed Surveyor of the Road leading from Raredons ford passing by Kekendals Mill to the house of Robert Henderson and that the Tythables within three miles of each side said. Road work on the same. p. 274 July 27, 1778 Recognizance of John Springer was produced in Court but neither party appearing Ordered to be continued over to next Court. Robert Henderson v. John Kinkead, Benj. Kirkendal Gent. S.B. (The case between Henderson v. Kinkead/Kincaid was continued quite a few times.) Report of the Commissioner for settling and adjusting the Line between this County and that of Monongahela County returned by the said Commissioner and Considrd with by the Commissioner on the part of the said County of Monaungala, is ordered to be confirmed, as the Bounds between this County and the said County of Monaungahela and Ordered to be recorded. p. 296 Frederick Farree, Ass. v. Kinkaid Harden Ju. v. Kinkaid - Contd. p. 392 October 25th, 1779: "Philip Gilliland v William Lynn. then came a jury, towit; John Kinkaid, John Embly, James Wright, Henry Hogland, John Bowley, Wm. Crow, Hugh Brawdy, Zadock Wright, Joseph Perkenson, Richard Crooks, Isaac Newkirk, Jno. Crow. Verd.. for Plaintiff & Judmt. L 1000 **************************************************************** http://books.google.com/books?id=IUh0iLoL6ggC&pg=RA1-PT4&vq=Gibson&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1#PPA401,M1 p. 401 At a Court held for Yohogania County February the 28th, 1780 John Gibson, Gent. one of the justices of the peace for this county prov'd to the Satisfaction of the Court that he s'd as a Deputy Commisr in the Service of Great Brittain at Fort Pitt in the year 1760, and that he has never rec'd any Benefits under the Kings procl. of 1763. p . 102 Sept. 22nd, 1777 John Gibson came into Court and took the Oath of Ensign of Militia. John Campbell Gent. took his seat in Court Alex Sumrall and Thos Jack Walter Sumrall p. 249 Aug 24th, 1778 John Gibson Gent. came into Court and acknowledged a deed of surrender to Matthias Slough Esq. 1000 Acres of Land on the Ohio which is ordered to be recorded. Matthis Slough was his brother-in-law, married to his sister Mary Gibson. John Gibson had a brother George Gibson----this was the Capt. George Gibson named in Robert Kinkade's RW pension application, DNA #4588. This Gibson family was in Lancaster County, PA as early as 1742. ********************** George Gibson, b. circa 1708; inn-keeper at Lancaster, and owned a large number of tracts of land, which he had warranted from the Proprietaries. He died at Lancaster in December 1761, leaving a wife, Martha (Devinney) and children as follows: a.. i. Mary, b. 1734, m.. Matthias Slough. a.. ii. Thomas, b. 1737. a.. iii. John, b. May 23, 1740; was Gen. John Gibson of the Revolution. b.. iv. Francis, b. 1742. a.. v. Jean, b. 1745. b.. vi. George, b. Oct. 10, 1747; m. Ann West; was Col. George Gibson, and was killed at St. Clair's Defeat in 1791. c.. vii. Ann, b. 1749. http://www.geocities.com/heartland/estates/3034/SarahsBook.htm To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message