The 3rd panel results for 130207 have been posted. The only variance from the Group A Apparent Ancestral Value in the 13-25 marker range occurs at marker 13 (DYS458) where he has a 17 instead of the AAV 16. This places him in Group A set 1a. 130207 believes descent from Thomas and Eliza Jane Townsend of Fayette Co. WVA. Eliza is the 2nd wife of Thomas b 1829 who m Isabella Campbell in 1849-50. We can follow him in the censuses from 1850 through 1880. On his marriage information for his marriage to Eliza he states his parents were Thomas & Mary Kincaid. Thomas appears with Mary Kincaid age 53 widow in his 1850 census. This is exciting for the Greenbrier/Fayette Co. VA(WVA) Kincaids. The paper trail strongly suggests that this Thomas is the son of Thomas, son of Samuel of the 3 wives and that mother Mary is "Polly" Davis who is the vetted ancestress of 33001 (A-1c) and the likely ancestress of 101753 (A-1a). Of interest also is that 49289's (A-2a) vetted ancestor, who appears in the same 1850 census, married the sister of Isabella Campbell and has long been thought to be a brother to this Thomas. A second line from 49289's ancestor is being sought in order to confirm or isolate the marker 15 nine which places him in set 2. The Greenbrieer Co. area is a large tangle of Kincaids with several families represented. It is through DNA that there is any hope of unsnarling the families. Full results for the 37 marker test ordered by 124250 have been returned. He matches the Group A AAV in all but the following alelles. He has the marker 15 (DYS459b) nine which places him in Set 2. He has the marker 30 (DYS456) 18 which places him in Set 2a. In addition he also has a 16 at marker 22 (DYS 460a) instead of the AAV 15 and a 16 at marker 33 (DYS570) instead of the AAV 17. 51828 (A-2b) also has the 16 at marker 22. 51828 is vetted to David/Lucy McCormick b 1795 of Maury Co. TN. I have no ancestral information for 124250. Sue Liedtke