Barbara, I have believed that Allen is a brother to Mathew who married Elizabeth Humble, I also believe there are more brothers, as follows: Washington, James, Allen, Thomas and, of course, Mathew. They all lived in Hamilton County, Fallcreek Township during the 1840 Census. Mathew/Elizabeth was near Pleasant R. Humble family and the Sarah Humble family. Mathew has 2 males ages 20-30 in the household, I believe this to be Allen and Mathew. Thomas has a male in his household, age 60-70, which I believe to be his father, but not sure on that, as well as a male age 30-40, which I believe to be himself. James and Thomas were near each other, and Washington was near the Vanover family of Enoch M. Vanover, and an Asa? H. Vanover. I still have not been able to find any type of marriage bond for Mathew and Elizabeth, either in VA, OH or IN. Haven't been able to locate where Mathew or Elizabeth are buried either. And since I can't prove that Francis is Mathew's father, I have not really pursued any further information on Francis, just have made notes on what I have ran acrossed. I seen on someone's GEDCOM file, that Francis, son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher, was born 1773, (which would correlate with the over 50 in 1823), but died in 1826. If that's factual, then, Thomas' older male in the family would not be his father, if Francis is his father. What are your thoughts on this matter? And thank you for your information that you posted, I'm very excited to see this, I've been up against a brick wall on my family passed Mathew, it actually gives me some hope that there is something out there to be found, again...Thank you!!!! Kelly Kincade-Lewis, dau of Robt. R. Kincade #129770 > In 1823, Francis Kinkaid was over 50 years of age. > > "At the November term, 1823, ....John Bruitt, Francis Kinkaid, James > Friel, > Sr., George Kirkendall and Robert Duncan were exempt from poll taxes, they > being over fifty years > of age." > http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv32ms.txt > > Hamilton County IN Archives History - Books .....Chapter VII - The > Hamilton > Circuit Court 1901 > http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv33ms.txt > > The first term of the Hamilton Circuit Court was held in 1823 at the house > of William Conner, in Delaware Township. William Wick, circuit judge; John > Finch and William Blackmore, associate judges; D. B. Wick, prosecuting > attorney; W. R. Warrick, sheriff, and John. D. Stephenson, clerk. The > commissions of all parties were recorded and the oath of office was > administered. The grand jury was ordered by the commissioners of the > county > to report for duty. John > Black and Francis Kinkaid failed to respond to the summons and proceedings > were immediately begun against them for contempt of court. > > State vs. Francis Kinkaid, for retailing liquor without a license. > > Was this Hannah Kinkaid the wife of Francis--- Hannah Viney? Possibly the > John Whelchel is the same John who married Elizabeth Kincaid in > Switzerland > Co, IN in 1820? > > "At the October term, 1826, there were several indictments for affrays > found. > At this term Hannah Kinkaid refiled her complaint against John Whelchel > and > wife for slander. Thereon the defendants made public retraction of the > slanderous words alleged to have been spoken and the matter was adjusted." > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> > To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:53 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Francis Kincaid of Hamilton County, Indiana---1830's > > >> Book Title: A History Of The Formation, Settlement And Development Of >> Hamilton County, Indiana >> >> The first white man who made permanent settlement in this township was >> James >> McNutt. He settled not far from the cabin built by Bridge. He was an >> Irishman. >> Hiram Coffee, John Whelchel and Abraham Helms followed McNutt in the >> order >> named. F. Kinkaid, Samuel Holliday, Richard Curry and Francis Whelchel >> followed >> those last named. They all built and lived in pioneer cabins of the >> times. >> These >> were the men who were the first to penetrate the wilds of Fall Creek >> Township >> and inaugurate the struggle which terminated in the triumph of pioneer >> courage >> and endurance over the obstacles which stood opposed to their advance in >> civilization and wealth. >> http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/township357gms.txt >> >> FIRST ELECTION: The first election was held at a cabin on the farm of >> Francis WHELCHEL, in 1833 or 1834. Francis KINCAID was chosen Justice >> of >> the Peace. >> >> http://home.att.net/~Local_History/Hamilton-Co-IN.htm >> >> >> Who was this Elizabeth Kincaid who married John Whelchell in Switzerland >> County, Indiana in 1820? >> >> WHELCHELL JOHN KINCAID ELIZABETH Switzerland 10-16-1820 >> >> >> "Interested in all WHELCHELS in Hamilton County. Davis WHELCHEL mar >> Nancy >> BARNES in SC. Migrated to Hamilton Cty abt 1815. Children: William; >> John; >> Francis mar Elizabeth Helms, died abt 1833 Hamilton Co; Keziah mar Wm >> WHELCHEL; Mary mar Isaac Helms, D: abt 1834 Hamilton CO; Jemima mar >> Abraham Helms D: 1/7/1864 Hamilton CO; Elizabeth mar Ebinezer CATLAND; >> Charles Barnes; Sarah; Edamiah (Eda) mar David TORRENCE; Davis Leander >> D: >> 1872 Hamilton Co' >> >> This Whelchel family is quite interesting, a lot about them on the >> internet. Davis Whelchel/Nancy Barnes was the son of Francis Whelchel >> and >> Ann Stockton of the Albemarle County, VA Stockton family. >> >> >> Barbara >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is the federal Bureau of Land Management website, which shows early land purchases by the patentee. Matthew Kincaid bought land in Hamilton County, IN in 1837. Thomas Kincade (use this spelling) bought land in Madison County, IN in 1826. Click on the little square to the left of the name, and it says that Thomas was from Hamilton County, Ohio. I didn't find a land purchase for Francis---perhaps he was in Indiana too early to be recorded? --unless the state of Indiana has its own land records. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <lewisjo@junct.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Francis Kincaid of Hamilton County, Indiana---1830's > Barbara, > I have believed that Allen is a brother to Mathew who married Elizabeth > Humble, I also believe there are more brothers, as follows: Washington, > James, Allen, Thomas and, of course, Mathew. They all lived in Hamilton > County, Fallcreek Township during the 1840 Census. Mathew/Elizabeth was > near Pleasant R. Humble family and the Sarah Humble family. Mathew has 2 > males ages 20-30 in the household, I believe this to be Allen and Mathew. > Thomas has a male in his household, age 60-70, which I believe to be his > father, but not sure on that, as well as a male age 30-40, which I believe > to be himself. James and Thomas were near each other, and Washington was > near the Vanover family of Enoch M. Vanover, and an Asa? H. Vanover. > > I still have not been able to find any type of marriage bond for Mathew > and Elizabeth, either in VA, OH or IN. Haven't been able to locate where > Mathew or Elizabeth are buried either. And since I can't prove that > Francis is Mathew's father, I have not really pursued any further > information on Francis, just have made notes on what I have ran acrossed. > > I seen on someone's GEDCOM file, that Francis, son of Thomas/Hannah > Tincher, was born 1773, (which would correlate with the over 50 in 1823), > but died in 1826. If that's factual, then, Thomas' older male in the > family would not be his father, if Francis is his father. > > What are your thoughts on this matter? And thank you for your information > that you posted, I'm very excited to see this, I've been up against a > brick wall on my family passed Mathew, it actually gives me some hope that > there is something out there to be found, again...Thank you!!!! > Kelly Kincade-Lewis, dau of Robt. R. Kincade #129770 > > > >> In 1823, Francis Kinkaid was over 50 years of age. >> >> "At the November term, 1823, ....John Bruitt, Francis Kinkaid, James >> Friel, >> Sr., George Kirkendall and Robert Duncan were exempt from poll taxes, >> they >> being over fifty years >> of age." >> http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv32ms.txt >> >> Hamilton County IN Archives History - Books .....Chapter VII - The >> Hamilton >> Circuit Court 1901 >> http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv33ms.txt >> >> The first term of the Hamilton Circuit Court was held in 1823 at the >> house >> of William Conner, in Delaware Township. William Wick, circuit judge; >> John >> Finch and William Blackmore, associate judges; D. B. Wick, prosecuting >> attorney; W. R. Warrick, sheriff, and John. D. Stephenson, clerk. The >> commissions of all parties were recorded and the oath of office was >> administered. The grand jury was ordered by the commissioners of the >> county >> to report for duty. John >> Black and Francis Kinkaid failed to respond to the summons and >> proceedings >> were immediately begun against them for contempt of court. >> >> State vs. Francis Kinkaid, for retailing liquor without a license. >> >> Was this Hannah Kinkaid the wife of Francis--- Hannah Viney? Possibly >> the >> John Whelchel is the same John who married Elizabeth Kincaid in >> Switzerland >> Co, IN in 1820? >> >> "At the October term, 1826, there were several indictments for affrays >> found. >> At this term Hannah Kinkaid refiled her complaint against John Whelchel >> and >> wife for slander. Thereon the defendants made public retraction of the >> slanderous words alleged to have been spoken and the matter was >> adjusted." >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:53 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Francis Kincaid of Hamilton County, Indiana---1830's >> >> >>> Book Title: A History Of The Formation, Settlement And Development Of >>> Hamilton County, Indiana >>> >>> The first white man who made permanent settlement in this township was >>> James >>> McNutt. He settled not far from the cabin built by Bridge. He was an >>> Irishman. >>> Hiram Coffee, John Whelchel and Abraham Helms followed McNutt in the >>> order >>> named. F. Kinkaid, Samuel Holliday, Richard Curry and Francis Whelchel >>> followed >>> those last named. They all built and lived in pioneer cabins of the >>> times. >>> These >>> were the men who were the first to penetrate the wilds of Fall Creek >>> Township >>> and inaugurate the struggle which terminated in the triumph of pioneer >>> courage >>> and endurance over the obstacles which stood opposed to their advance in >>> civilization and wealth. >>> http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/township357gms.txt >>> >>> FIRST ELECTION: The first election was held at a cabin on the farm of >>> Francis WHELCHEL, in 1833 or 1834. Francis KINCAID was chosen Justice >>> of >>> the Peace. >>> >>> http://home.att.net/~Local_History/Hamilton-Co-IN.htm >>> >>> >>> Who was this Elizabeth Kincaid who married John Whelchell in Switzerland >>> County, Indiana in 1820? >>> >>> WHELCHELL JOHN KINCAID ELIZABETH Switzerland 10-16-1820 >>> >>> >>> "Interested in all WHELCHELS in Hamilton County. Davis WHELCHEL mar >>> Nancy >>> BARNES in SC. Migrated to Hamilton Cty abt 1815. Children: William; >>> John; >>> Francis mar Elizabeth Helms, died abt 1833 Hamilton Co; Keziah mar Wm >>> WHELCHEL; Mary mar Isaac Helms, D: abt 1834 Hamilton CO; Jemima mar >>> Abraham Helms D: 1/7/1864 Hamilton CO; Elizabeth mar Ebinezer CATLAND; >>> Charles Barnes; Sarah; Edamiah (Eda) mar David TORRENCE; Davis Leander >>> D: >>> 1872 Hamilton Co' >>> >>> This Whelchel family is quite interesting, a lot about them on the >>> internet. Davis Whelchel/Nancy Barnes was the son of Francis Whelchel >>> and >>> Ann Stockton of the Albemarle County, VA Stockton family. >>> >>> >>> Barbara >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message