I was contacted by another descendant of Martin Kincaid last year (David Kincaid of Littleton, Colorado) and shared with me absolute proof that Martin Kincaid is descended from John Kincaid who died in Union Township, Erie County, PA in the form of a letter from Samuel E. Kincaid to Martin Kincaid, see my post of June 21, 2007 with the subject heading: Martin Kincaid son of Andrew Kincaid. Sincerely Norman Kincaid ----- Original Message ---- From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 9:05:01 AM Subject: [KINCAID] DNA #122441 ancestry Kim Kincaid, contact for husband Jonathan E. Kincaid DNA #122441, has sent me lineage information and given permission to share same. She will be working on a vetting post later this summer. Jonathan Kincaid Jerome A Kincaid & Martha Weathermon Arthur M Kincaid m Ruth Basore 1931 Albert H. Kincaid m Dora Mattox 1886 Orange Co. IN Martin Kincaid m Mary Anna Hollowell 1852 Washington Co. IN Andrew Kincaid m Margaret Scott 1823 Crawford Co. IN John Kincaid m Margaret Miles 1782 Cumberland Co. PA Norman's vetting post on April 20, 2007 shows that the next link is George Kincaid born c1733 died 1790 m prior 1758 Jean Mitchell. This is very exciting in that #122441 does not have the marker 4 (DYS 391) mutation to 11. Kim seems to be a document oriented researcher so vetting #122441 should isolate Norman's 11 at marker 4 downline from John/Margaret Miles. #122441's results for markers 13 to 37 have not been returned. Confirmation that he has a 9 at marker 15 (DYS 459b) is eagerly awaited. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart > Jeff, this post was originally made when the results for 55675 and 60141 > were first returned. The marker 4 (DYS391) and marker 35 (DYS CDYb) > mutations that Peter's comments are refering to appear to have occured as > parallel mutations several times within the project so basing a > relationship > or lack of relationship on these mutations is a bit iffy unless the paper > trail suggests otherwise. The mutations cannot be dismissed and should be > confirmed or isolated if at all possible. > > Within Group A set 1c, which is based on the marker 4 mutation to 11 for > want of any other distinguishing attribute, we know that: > > #4588, #92549 and #5850 all seem to have inherited the mutation from > Robert/Mary Bowman. > > #33001 has a paper trail that suggests that his mutation is parallel and > occurred downline from a common ancestor with #101753 who does not have > the > mutation. > > #55675, #35199 and #2564 may have had a common source for the mutation as > the 1800 families do know and interact with each other, however, #55675's > ancestor does have a close association with earliest ancestors (including > those of #60141, #2565 and #31493) who do not have the mutation. > > #15779, #23547 and #64507 lines do not cross paths with any of the others > during the known line histories, it is hard to say how ancient their > mutation is or whether or not it is probable (though definately possible) > it > came from a common ancestor with anyone else in the set.. > > Mutations to 11 at marker 4 also occur in A-1b, A-2a, A-2b and A-4. In > each > of these cases it would be unlikely that the mutation was from a common > ancestor with any of the others or with any in A-1c. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Bergman" <jeffancom@yahoo.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart > > > Peter, Did I miss something? 2564 matches up with whom? Please fill me in > if > there is a new version of and to the chart. Thanks.....Jeff Bergman 8th > great grandson of John and Nancy Young Kincaid.. > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaids@auracom.com> > To: KINCAID-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:40:49 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart > > Fascinating news on the DNA front. So the Fincastle Kincaids > appear to match up with Andrew of Greenbrier (Will 1810)! > If only Olvia Brisbin was alive to hear this. On the other > front John Kincaid (m. Ann Graham) lines up with Rev. > Joseph Kincaid of Killinchy, County Down. What interesting > news! Look forward to seeing these genealogies worked out. > Gotta love this DNA technology. > > Peter > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotesin the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message