We had occasion to check 5850's DNA matches and were amazed to see he had 434 12 marker matches since the most we had seen were 101 which were all in A 1a & 1b and 2b. This made me wonder how many matches each of the Kincaid DNA groups might have so compiled them for various 12 marker matches with the variation each shows from the AAV of Group A. I don't know if the lines will stay straight and show properly on Roostweb. Group A Set 1a #2562 101 matches AAV Set 1b #2563 101 matches 12 on Marker 26 Set 1c 15779 435 matches 11 on Marker 4 Set 2a #4164 434 matches 11 on # 4 Set 2b #1259 101 matches 9 on # 15 Set 4 #49844 1 match 10 on #5 Group B #9295 35 matches 11 on #4, 16 on # 6 Group C #7529 9 matches 25 on # 2, 10 on # 4, 13 on # 8, 30 on # 12 Group D #98074 28 matches 22 on # 2, 10 on #4, 14 on #5, 15 on # 6, 11 on #7, 14 on # 8, 11 on #11 Group E #16870 2 matches 25 on #2, 15 on #3, 10 on #4, 13 on #5, 11 on # 7, 13 on #8, 12 on #10, 11 on # 11, 28 on # 12 Group F #11651 69 matches 24 on #2, 11 on #4, 15 on # 6 Group G #26838 94 matches differs on all except # 9 and # 12 Group H #49951 0 matches differs on all except 1,2, 8 & 9 There are no scientific conclusions that can be drawn from the above info but thought I would share with you. It does look like the 11 result on Marker 4 is the reason for so many matches for A 1c and 2a. Don